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14:26 Sun 19 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
i just ope one of his "estemed collegues" doesnt take him out. i wouldnt put it past the spaniard
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14:46 Sun 19 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
More than likely be a 'steward' or something.......

Good drive today from Lewis - hope Heiki's car can do better for Brazil, Hamilton will need all the help he can get in that race. Hopefully he'll just try and aim for a podium finish and not worry about winning the GP!
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14:55 Sun 19 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
1_eye said:
Hopefully he'll just try and aim for a podium finish and not worry about winning the GP!

can you really see that happening?
i cant. but i can see him getting another stupidly ridiculous penalty for something like having the stripe in the wrong groove of his soft tyres! and therefore making a massa championship win even more hollow than it may already be if he wins due to the help from the stewards all season long
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18:23 Sun 19 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
fagin said:
i just ope one of his "estemed collegues" doesnt take him out. i wouldnt put it past the spaniard


Nor would I, but frankly, the far bigger threat is FIA and/or retarded stewards.

Anyways, great drive from Lewis, now just to keep fingers crossed for a decent and CLEAN race on interlagos in a couple weeks.

Edited at 23:53 Sun 19/10/08 (BST)
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21:40 Sun 19 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
Hi Hate could not be easier: go to Interlagos with a seven-point lead over Felipe Massa, of Ferrari, regarded by many as susceptible both in racecraft and temperament, and all Lewis Hamilton has to do is finish fifth or better should Massa win the final race of the season and the World Championship will be his. Surely Hamilton can close this one out, after a cool and collected victory in Shanghai yesterday when he led from start to finish, and there will be no repeat of the heart-rending last-gasp failure of last year.
If only Formula One was that simple. In reality any race that Hamilton is likely to have to finish to become champion is a risk. He may get tangled up in a mêlée at one of the tightest and most dangerous first corners the sport has to offer. He may find that, for the second year in succession, his McLaren Mercedes, mysteriously or otherwise, suffers its one and only mechanical failure of the season. Alternatively Hamilton may suffer another one of his rushes of blood to the head and do something utterly unnecessary at Interlagos, just as he did in Japan eight days ago and in Brazil last year, and throw it all away. And what about the stewards who have played such a big role in Hamilton?s second year in Formula One? Could his driving attract their interest yet again, either in qualifying or the race, and lead to him being penalised out of a title that once again seems so close?
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06:52 Mon 20 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
Crazzy, you should write for a paper, better than most of the journalists I've seen
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07:24 Mon 20 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
Well yeh, Hamilton could easily get tangled up at the start, remember, if Massa messes it up at the first corner, there's no point watching the race!

Put simply, if Hamilton is to win the championship in Brazil, he MUST:

A- Get pole position at qualifying
B- Get a blinding start and keep the inside line.
C- Take his time
D- if he does happen to be a few rows down, he can't be all agressive into the first turn, it will catch him out, it's proven itself to be underestimated, and i love the fact that it's named after the greatest F1 driver of all time.

I reckon Hamilton has it due to the points advantage. But at least Ferrari should walk away with the constructors title.


Edited at 12:25 Mon 20/10/08 (BST)
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08:41 Mon 20 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
yoda said:
Crazzy, you should write for a paper, better than most of the journalists I've seen


Thats because a journalist did write it
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08:42 Mon 20 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
Lol, I don't know these things
janmb
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12:47 Mon 20 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
crazzymadman said:
In reality any race that Hamilton is likely to have to finish to become champion is a risk. He may get tangled up in a mêlée at one of the tightest and most dangerous first corners the sport has to offer. He may find that, for the second year in succession, his McLaren Mercedes, mysteriously or otherwise, suffers its one and only mechanical failure of the season.


True enough, any race you *have* to finish is a risk. Then again, that is no less the case for Massa. When you get down to it, the pressure is even greater on Massa, driving on his home turf, having to not only finish the race, but do it 5-6 positions better than Hamilton as well.

Anything can happen to either of the two - lets just hope it ends with a clean race where both finish in accordance with their skills and performance, rather than a race full of random incidents and FIA interventions.
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12:51 Mon 20 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
mr_mcquiston said:
Put simply, if Hamilton is to win the championship in Brazil, he MUST:

A- Get pole position at qualifying
B- Get a blinding start and keep the inside line.
C- Take his time
D- if he does happen to be a few rows down, he can't be all agressive into the first turn, it will catch him out, it's proven itself to be underestimated, and i love the fact that it's named after the greatest F1 driver of all time.


That list belongs to Massa, not Hamilton.

Hamilton can save his championship lead without even making it into Q3 - although clearly not desirable in any way.

Massa on the other hand MUST have a great weekend from start to end. For Hamilton, anything short of disaster is good enough.

As for turn 1 naming - no argument there what so ever

Edited at 17:54 Mon 20/10/08 (BST)
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17:48 Mon 20 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
What would the world of F1 be like if Senna was alive...

janmb
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10:36 Wed 22 Oct 08 (BST)  [Link]  
Schumacher would not have had half the name he does now, that's for sure.

Fair enough, he was an amazing driver for sure, but there's no way on earth he would been able to pull off that amazing row of achievements in the company of a driver like Senna.
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04:06 Tue 28 Oct 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
Ferrari threatening to pull out of F1 if engines are standardized... First time in ages I really respect that team for anything, but that stance is great. Just have to hope more teams back this.
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05:01 Tue 28 Oct 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
what is there a use for Ferrari if they standardize the engines, ferrari is famous for there engines. that is the right move for them,

it would make the F1 a closer race if they make all the same engines.
janmb
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08:53 Tue 28 Oct 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
nick_111 said:
it would make the F1 a closer race if they make all the same engines.


It would also take away a large part of the point for the sport to exist at all - technological development.

Cost reductions will simply *have* to be found in other less dramatic steps than this.
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09:37 Tue 28 Oct 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
Indeed Jan.

If this is to come into the sport I doubt very much I'll watch it.

It'll become more of a driver thing than the big team event it is now. When a driver wins a race it's not just him - it's the whole team who feel the elation of victory, knowing they've all worked bloody hard for it!

F1 are not doing themselves any favours of late......
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01:19 Wed 29 Oct 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
watch the indy, it is boring because they have all the same engines
janmb
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11:19 Thu 30 Oct 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
Well, indy is just about on the same performance level as GP2... in short, a different, much weaker league entirely.

Indy/cart/whatever it's called now, has often been more powerful engine-wise, but has never been close to out-performing F1 cars over a timed lap.
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13:00 Sun 2 Nov 08 (GMT)  [Link]  
Amazing race !


Well done Lewis Hamilton.

Hamilton doesn't deserve it (In my opinion), he didn't win it Glock won it for him. It is nearly impossible to lose the time he lost to Hamilton on 1 lap without some kind of twist! A toyota driver giving Hamilton a big juicy hug at the end must make Massa feel sick, even the comentator said he must have had a message. I'm so gutted for Massa and am bracing myself for all this press and blabby blab blab news we are going to have to put up with. It's already started "Hamilton holds nerve" He crapped his pants, he thought it was over and couldn't even catch the Torro rosso, what amazing nerve he showed.

I feel sick

Edited at 19:32 Sun 2/11/08 (GMT)
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