dark_chocco doesn't list straight as one if his preferences so he won't be played in that game type. You're forgetting just because players might have stats showing they can play certain types doesn't necessarily mean they want too.

Ah. Now i see. So not only do you want more games you want more points. If a player plays 8 games of 8bus he gets 2 points for winning 5-3. If he plays the suggested 4 games in straight and wins 4-0 he gets 8 points. LMAO. That means out of 22 possible points 8 can come from straight which is over a thrird of the possible points. In summation Straight can win or lose the tie virtually on its own. Naaaaah. 1 point a game thanks.

If we go with your logic then corsair too asked not to play many games of straight next season. But he has the highest run on this site, so he can be classified as a straight player.

The fact that u wont play certain players in straight doesnt mean that u dont have straight players in your team. Its your tactics as a captain to play each player in the types u think they can do well or that they like.

I guess that u got it wrong buck. The FBL wont count individual matches anymore but frames. So if someone wins 8-0 in 8us he gets 8 points.

The total points in a fixture would be 64, 16 of which come from straight.

Nah Jamie If you win 5-3 it is what it says, and 4-0 is 8-0, would be like FCL but no bonuses and Straight worth twice the price.

Logically you have

2 8US (Possible 16 points - 1 per frame)
2 9US (Same)
2 8UK (Same)
1 Str8 (Possible 8 points - 2 per frame)

Technically even with double points Straight would be worth half the other types so unless result is close, Straight shouldn't influence the decision

Straight should be 2 games just like other types. All types should contribute in the fixture the same number of points in my opinion.

See .........i is a bit thick. When did that change come about. I have no idea who im agreeing with here now but thats daft. The scoring method from last season was good. If you won you got 2 points, draw 1 ect. Why now change it to something the same as what we have? FCL? What we gonna do call it FCL IN DISGUISE LEAGUE..

Oh bllks im leaving!!!

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I already suggested that no change would be needed as the format is really good the way it is now. The only change i would do to the current format is to increase straight frames up to 4.

But seems that not everyone thinks it like us

i don't mind format honesty, guys may nit at my posts saying otherwise but the above would be my idea if beens idea came into it but point count.

team, frames or points i don't mind, if it is team then thats the easiest to change format to what people want, points count is more difficult and if frames count then guys will want to remove Straight.

current format with a two frame boost for each type would get my vote but wouldn't complain if another format is chosen, all i want is for Straight to remain in FBL and it is so thats good enough from me.

Well i aggree with that bud. Dont see the point in changing the rest. Its not the league thats the problem its the site not being updated and the Jave issues. Just chasing our tales if we alter a working model for the sake of it

This is a lot like carom on snooker, not many people like to play it as many aren't that good, but for those of us that do enjoy it I certainly wouldn't want it to be any less relevant than any of the more popular game types, it's not very fair.

I feel some kind of compromise should come in favour of those who enjoy straight, not 6 frames, but more than 2! I enjoy playing straight, I beat dvz the other night it isn't 16 - 0 guaranteed! And if people want to be better, they can practise. People shouldn't be penalised just because their preferred game type is something only a handful of people are very adept at. It's a league, so everyone within it should hold the same importance.

The only thing I don't aabout straight being worth so much more per game than the other types is that you can lose a large amount of points without even getting to shoot. For example, if there are 2 games of straight each worth 4 points and I break, then my opponent hits a 35+ run that's 4 points. This is not possible in any other game type so it really can't be viewed as the same.

As for the comparison to carom, at least in carom if someone hits 5+ on their first run you get a chance to hit your own.

You could hit several runouts in a row and seven ballings for same effect but you have to be decent to hit a 30+ over a consistent amount of time.

I have always been in favour of equal innings in Straight but never really been discussed

Only the person who did not break off after the lag has a chance to take another turn when their opponent hits 5 points. If you win the lag and break off and miss then your opponent hits 5 you don't get to go again. So basically you get an equal amount of turns. With straight if you are breaking off since you can't pot then it's more beneficial to play tactically, so as not to leave a shot on. Then your opponent can either smash and risk not potting, or more than likely pot more than one ball. That's what much of straight is about, playing tactically or taking risks. It could go in your favour, too.

Not the same gameplay as carom I'm sure there are advantages and disadvantages for both, but my original point was that in terms of only a small number of people being good at it, it's quite the same.

I do both, to me Straight is about risk and if i pot fine i have a golden chance, fail and it could be over. Only been tactical early two or three times in my career in early stages.

Its the reason i'm bottom of Zac's ladder but i like the all or nothing gamble. If its like to decide something they may play tactical

if the amount of players in a team wont be reduced, then there is no point to reduce the amount of the games. worked well as it was before, so no change needed imo

Thats 3 of 6 captains then. Except maybe 2 extra straight games?

I have played in the clan leagues for years and my opinion is these are working great, don't change anything apart from a few rules which has been discussed already. Keep straight in the leagues they have always been here and anyway one person winning all their straight games doesn't win the league, it's a team effort and some of the top players have lost in the 15 game format as an example ! Take tennis ranking as e.g Murray on paper is awesome but he always comes second or third to the better guys, same here the best teams will always win but there will be shock results one in a while! Pros and uprising have a very good team UB, Knights etc will upset in a few games but over a season the best come on top on average! Unless you cap the amount of top tier players that sign for a team, either based on rank then this will never change in these clan leagues.

Shorter games, longer games add a little spice but let's be honest we can all predict the outcome based on the team lists.

Keep up the great work Keith and team.

Changed nothing gets my vote

Pretty much agree, but would prefer more straight games in fbl, and bonus points for 3 fouls in 9ball, which is much more worthy than a lucky run out!

does take more skill i agree does that include 7 balls in others for balance?