See it went from a discussion thread to an argument thread in 5 secs. Why do we have to dispell a point of view?

How would a big team gain a 16-0 advantage over a smaller team in straight? Total nonsense. Every team has capable players in straight.

I will mention 1 from each team

Pros: dvz
Uprising: corsair
Fearless knights: legend_pot
Pocket dynamos: w_hoolahan
Fpd: whocares8x8
Revolutions: mrmagic or Maybe veyron

Can u please tell me which game between these players can finish 8-0?

If you dont get the run of the balls mate theres many on this game that would lose all 8.

pointless post

But if u dont get the run of the balls u can lose in 8us 8-0 aswell. Should we drop it aswell?

All possible and you only named 1 from each team, would need 2

Haha, I'm not arguing with Ab mate - I'm just putting my opinion forward!

In very simplistic terms, this is what I see...

beenjammin would like one of the 3 leagues to be a long format, frames counted league. If he doesn't get this, he'll walk.

If I was a runner, I would never back down to a stance like that. It paves the way for anyone to threaten to quit if things aren't going their way. However, would it really be THAT bad if Been got his way on this one? He's tried and tried for long enough! As long as it's not the FCL, I'm happy.

No-one other than Keith and possibly Craig want reduced fixtures.

I've not managed to find anyone that is in favour of reduced frames in any of the 3 leagues. It's an unpopular move, supported by an extreme minority.

Straight players want more than 2 frames of straight.

I've read the technical downfalls put forward, but I've not seen anything to convince me that 4 frames worth 2 points a frame wouldn't be a more popular option than the current system.

Not arguing, we're having a debate, no point faust arguing with me, i'll win lol

Every team including us and Pro's has a second player that is weaker than our best straight player. That applies to every team, and also in every format! I CAN go through and pick 2 players from each team if you like? However, if we picked Cliffy and Eri vs mrmagic and maddmgpvx5 - I couldn't call the outcome!

No i dont need two as u said that big clans have an advantage of 16-0 before the fixture starts which i proved to you that is not true. But i can even name 2 players from each team if you want.

But lets suppose for a moment that a clan doesnt have a straight specialist. Should we drop it just because they cant find a player who plays straight well? FEw seasons ago I remember Underdogs losing a FCL game 105-15. following your logic should we lower frames in a game just because a single team isnt good enough to get more then 15 points?

Not everyone plays to win the league, some play for fun aswell. But if you drop the prefered type for some people then i dont see any reason why they should play in another format they dont like to play. Oh and please dont mention the fact that we can create a new league with our own ideas, i know that, but my point is how to help the current leagues be more enjoyable for the majority of the people.

I think the whole argument/debate is to do with been wanting a true frame count league but 2 points for a game of straight to make the same amount of points available for all game types, I disagree with the 2 points because thats not giving a true frame count league, been is counting each rack in one game of straight as frames and thinks it should be worth more points, its racks and not frames and when a game is finished it will say 1-0 just like any other game/frame so should be worth the same, the problem then is to have all game types playing the same amount but lets be honest, 8 straight games would be too much, so need to find a solution.




Edited at 15:44 Tue 21/07/15 (BST)

This is pretty much my whole point summed up - Straight players get a raw deal because people who don't like straight don't think it should be increased

Four frames have been in the cup for a few seasons now and it doesn't seem to have caused a problem

As I said earlier, the simple solution is 4 frames worth 2 points each. I don't understand the massive obsession with a perfect format. Yeah, there is a downside that it's not a true frame reflection but there's going to be an issue somewhere regardless.

It worked for seasons before (with straight worth 2 points a frame) with no qualm and it's worked over on snooker with 2 points for a power frame for seasons too.

We know that giving a straight frame two points isnt perfect, but a compromise has to be found.

And in my opinion giving 2 points to a straight frame is a better option than to scrap straight at all or reduce the number of frames in other types down to 6.

Go for it

Before you do, sorry but maddmgpvx5 has deactivated so he doesn't count neither does crazykid

Sure

Pros: tinie
Uprising: clifton
Pocket Dynamos: Hippesville
Fpd: Aladdin_sane
Fearless Knights: dark_chocco
Revolutions: maddmgpvx5

They dont look rubbish players who cant win a frame of straight against anyone.

veyron for maddmgpvx5 just to make Ash happy too.