Put the same questions to all clans, then you could have all captains list their players with a yes or no for each question next to them, this way all players get a say, then accept the decision of all players.

I dont have anything against points being counted, but on the other hand u cant completely remove straight or make it 8 frames which is too long. A compromise needs to be found and i think that my opinion isnt a bad one :)

Looking at some of the posts, I was just about to suggest the reintroduction of divisions. That way, you could do a longer version of FBL for the top division so you ensure the best team always wins and do the regular format for the bottom division so that everyone has a chance. Or you stick with the same format for both and still remove all the top player vs regular player arguments, top vs top and regular vs regular.

As long as you had enough teams, you could manage it (and we have enough to do end of season splits).

Your right guys i have muffled past few days but in my opinion if you can remove one type then you can remove them all so done my best to try and keep Straight in the league even if i don't enjoy it in the league. Strengths and Weaknesses.

All i want to know is...

a) Will Straight be removed from FBL

You don't get it though, done the whole title thing except individuals and grand slam so i don't need to say increase frames so Pros and Uprising win more although it could be true the more frames that are added.

One example is the FCL Cup, 5 vs 5, MVP who is clearly the greatest clan in history of Pool struggled to win this prestigious cup until their final few seasons, why was this? because lower the frames the less chance for the top clans to win.

I also agree with Been that a variety would be nice, maybe two leagues of the 'luck' element and one which is designed for top teams?

For me its a matter of principle that Straight will remain in the league and not be removed, i don't even mind if every type goes down to one frame as long as it remains, although more frame time would be nice, i wouldn't moan about it if it got decreased as at end of the day, its a free league and the staff doesn't get their respect.

I disagree that less frames give top teams (the fact that you have it plural) a lower chance of winning.
I'm willing to bet that every time MVP lost the cup, it was to another top team, that one of the bottom 3 teams never won it.
Less accuracy/games played only makes you lose the ability to seperate the top teams from each other. The bottom teams will remain on the bottom anyway.

MVP being the best ever isn't clear to me either, I think it's debatable. Pro's have 7 wins from 8 seasons in FCL.
and there have been seasons when we won everything!

Edited at 18:12 Sat 18/07/15 (BST)

Good point, I vote for lowering FBL to 6 frames no straight and a killer, and FCL to be lowered to 4 of each

The one I remember was MVP losing in the first round to Latin Legends but then lost in the final to Snooker Squad (who were the 2nd best team). Latin Legends had a good side, but more at the level of Fearless Knights. So they lost to a team below them, but a top level team still won.

I'll bet this LL clan wasn't of the bottom 3 either.
edit, i misunderstood because it's so preposterous!
So you're still fine with 12 in FCL, but 8 is a problem in FBL!? Should've known I can't talk to you after that silly dig you made yesterday.

Edited at 18:24 Sat 18/07/15 (BST)

Edited at 18:29 Sat 18/07/15 (BST)

Tricky to say between MVP and Pros, Pros came out of the ashes of MVP. A best ever 8 of both sides would overlap slightly surely?

Both have 7 FCL wins I think, though MVP arguably had more competition.

Right all clan captains please ask your clan what they think and post results here, cheers.

What is the question? MVP or Pros?

Ooooooo ark at er lol

Totally agree with this, as for the cup lol, MVP nicknamed it the mickey mouse cup from day one, never rated it and never put our strongest team in it, used it to give players games, never entered SL and only played 2 seasons of FBL and won both , its been funny over the seasons to see Pros getting called MVP with a different name lol, they aint as good as what MVP were so please stop it, it cracks me up lol
Even tho pros only exist because MVP folded.


Edited at 19:09 Sat 18/07/15 (BST)

it all comes down to the leagues been fairer and keeping players in the league

I've said this many times and before I get the usual play more and practice and you will get better guff.

the facts are simple, no one likes getting hammered once, let alone week in week out, how does that help clans

if you think players stay in clans to be the whipping boys every season your mistaken, yes and before you go on some do, how many times have clans started to have fun and have been shot down in flames, much the same as Ashes team has for the last couple of seasons
is it fun ??? like hell is it

the leagues need a revamp
2 divisions even if you have 8 teams, play twice like you used to, let the weaker teams have a chance to win something, or better still have a competitive game against some at their level

FCL
nothing wrong TBH > 2 divisions

FBL > 2 divisions
2 of each
1 straight
1 killer back to where it started

SL
stays the same teams are small enough

cups include all teams

http://www.funkypool.com/thread/18433/latin-legends-numero-three/85#1343808
"Great Result Aaron mate

FCL CUP
Latin Legends (39) vs (36) MVP
barbaycue (8) v (7) bluenose1872
zantetsukenz (10) v (5) eemad
toluca321 (5) v (10) dvz
king8ball1 (7) v (8) beenjammin
joker86 (9) v (6) davybaumers

Well done Barbaycue, Zante, Aaron, Bernabe and King
Deleted User"

Damien, Jay, dvz, been and davy is surely one of your stronger line ups? Damien, dvz and been could walk into any teams strongest 5.

That was 2nd time round for MVP, Ok I was wrong, we put a strong team in there and eemad let us down badly with the shock of the season lol

Shock of his funky career more like

Lets get back to the format discussion, whats happening ?

I'll tell you whats happening. You are all messing about with a system that works and has worked fine for the three seasons i have been in it. The next thing will be Keith telling you to stick it! Perfect! Well done.

Why do things have to change? If you read the last 10 pages and can find a reason please explain it to me cause i aint got a clue. Neither will 95% of my team, hence it is pointless giving them a vote. They, as we all should be imo, are quite happy with the status quo.

Yes it works fine for point count but not frame count and it was frame count that was requested.

That is why 6 frames of each type was suggested ( including straight) as it was the highest number I think you can play of straight to make all game types equal for frame count. I think 6 frames of straight for those who like it is about an hour which is the same as a fcl game.

But others want to up number of frames in some types, less in straight, count frames and double what some are worth.