true mate but if you think about it Straight would be worth half the amount of points than any other type if cut to one.

Lets use 10/5

8US: 20 Points
9US: 20 Points
8UK: 20 Points
Straight: 10 Points

so it may not have the effect on the table the other types do, lets keep Straight for Straight players, Make it 4 if you wish but at least this makes it fair and Straight has less impact on the table.

Id keep most things as they are, but at a chance go for 8 frames main types and 4 straight worth 2 points, i feel 5 is too much, but straight must stay in as everyone likes their different types so its equally fair to treat all and have it there. Not sure whats best whether having 1 straight game of 4 frames, or 2 of 4 frames, or just how it is now, or something else. Would say 3 frames is good but 6 is too little for the others im sure.

If we change to frame count, all frames would have to count the same as you cannot have some frames that are worth more than others.

This is where straight taking the time it does makes it awkward.

You could do as follows-
US8 x 2 games = 6 frames
US9 x 2 games = 6 frames
UK8 x 2 games = 6 frames
Straight x 1 game = 6 frames
Killer x 1 game (3v3) 3 points for 1st, 2 points for second and 1 point for 3rd.

With the above you can have all format of results, 6-0, 5-1, 4-2 or 3-3 for all game types.

6 frames of straight, 4's more than enough, if possible 3 frames at 2 points each would be my preferred choice, failing that scrap it. I just think after all the effort there should be a winner decided, than a worthless and tedious draw.

I haven't seen anyone but you have a problem with a straight game counting 2 points.
Straight takes over twice as long to play as another game type, I disagree that it "cannot" be worth more than a frame of 8us.
Something else to consider, a game of straight isn't a frame to be begin with, it has many frames within it.another justification for it being worth 2 per game

and only 6 frames of most types isn't long enough of a format to be accurate. That, like the 'most of' business, would ruin it for me.

Edited at 21:03 Fri 17/07/15 (BST)

If we change to frame count for points for the overall winner of a league, then all frames must count the same you cannot have straight counting 2 points and half the games. With the proposal we have only 1 straight game and all clans have one player who plays it. 6 frames is going to take about an hour which is no different in length to an FCL game.

you're the only one so far with that opinion.
FBL did it that way before!, it just had bonus points as well

Edited at 20:57 Fri 17/07/15 (BST)

In my opinion removing Straight is not an option, it makes it fair for those who like Straight, as previously mentioned i'm sure each team has one decent Straight player.

removing Straight for those players its like removing UK for tratter, 9US for yourself and 8US for me or anyone decent at those types. everyone has strengths and weaknesses, lets not jeopardize the balance and Straight is still worth half the other types so it has less impact unless results are close.

But it is not 6 frames it is 48 frames. So are you telling me after 48 frames you will not have an accurate winner between the 2 clans.

If it was upped to 8 frames it is 64 frames, 10 frames is 80 frames. How many frames do you want to show accuracy, please explain how you are getting to what you consider an accurate figure.

We could keep upping the frames to make the frame count per game larger but I don't believe it makes it more accurate as there is a point when a player goes so far behind he would try less and have no interest at least at 6 games most players would try for all frames and not lose interest.

it's actually 6/42 frames of regular and games of straight, and a killer game what you're proposing.
What is enough to be accurate in my opinion?
at least 8/48 of regular types, and then however you work out straight
I suggest 2 indiv matches of it: 3 or 4 games worth 2 points each if the others are gonna be at 8.

Edited at 21:12 Fri 17/07/15 (BST)

The discussion was regarding using each frame to count towards the win, if we were to introduce that option all frames need to count the same. Straight cannot count any different, would you have original on snooker counting 2 points and arcade 1 point just because original takes longer to play?

I meant to Ash Keith, just something telling me he wants to remove Straight completely which upsets the balance and i just want that balance. And on Snooks as you know we have 3 frames of Power worth 2 points, sure we could up to 6 but thats an hour and a half playing time which seems too long.

Not sure how much Power has impacted on Snooker but it would be less impactful on Pool as Straight would be worth 6 points compared to 12 of the other three. Straight needs to be cut to one but not removed is my point and i don't mind how many you insert for frames.

Based on what formula.

As 8/64 is 12.5% per player can add to the overall score.
At 6/48 is 12.5% per player can add to the overall score.

So not understanding why if using frame count they would not provide the same level of accuracy.

I totally changed that post you quoted there^ (but it doesn't make any effect on your question)
but to answer,
accuracy in numbers! The more games played, the more likely the best player wins. Everyone agrees there don't they? You're being impossible now.

Edited at 21:20 Fri 17/07/15 (BST)

Only PDs and Revs were competitive, everyone else in FCL was comfortable in there position (and pretty predictable in their position).

FBL had pros vs ups, UBS vs FK and PD's v revs. So a decent bit of competition.

SL had every team fighting for a place, and had plenty of upsets and near upsets.

So how can you justify FCL was the most competitive league?

You can edit but the percentages don't change.

You want frame count which the above offers in a format for all.

But in reality you want frame count with as high a number of frames as possible to make sure that it favours the better individual players.

Clans are a team event so why should the formats be stacked towards the clans who have the better individual players as opposed to the better overall team. The scoring should still arrive at the same outcome regardless of frames played as the super league has proved for a number of seasons now.

Try this, would you be happy with FCL if it started playing 2 frames of each type? 6 instead of 15?
Of course not, it would lose accuracy.
The percentages didn't change

I would happily change FCL to that but it is too close to SL thus why it has the higher number to make it different.

Leagues need to have something for everyone, not just for the best individuals and best teams.

That's a lie and you know it!
Something for everyone, yes, I want that too. You and others have FCL for team match count, The less skilled teams have SL so they have a chance. What about us, who want an accurate frame count league?
You really are being impossible, I done trying to talk sensibly with you.
But I tell you this, If FCL stops counting frames, and FBL doesn't start, with at least 8frames per regular match. I'm done with clans too.
10 seasons asking for this, and still don't have it, enough is enough.

Edited at 21:27 Fri 17/07/15 (BST)

Lol so you get frames per match to count as what you have been asking for and you will quit if it is not the number of frames that 'you' want.

The leagues are about everyone not just 'you'. If we introduce the frame count it has to be done in a format that suits for the games that we play.

The number of frames played has made no difference in SL for seasons now, the best team still wins whether it is 6 frames or 15 frames. The only difference with a lower number of frames is it puts pressure on the top players to hit the ground running as they do not have the long format to claw things back.

I do wonder why top players are scared of short formats, is it because they know they can lose games that they would not lose in a longer format?

Surely the shorter format should be a bigger challenge and test of skill as opposed to beating someone 15-0, 14-1 or 13-2 in FCL for example.