Pirate how about 9 Arcade?

Youre being very immature Jack.

Tbh i do think straight should be kept, i mean alot of people dont like 8buk.... big pockets lol, lets get rid of that.

Though i have a few 8buk players so no lol.

If adequate interest is there for it to be included then why shouldn't it? It's supposed to be a fun friendly league that caters for everybody

Quite simply not everybody is gonna be happy.
Maybe leave it at that and stop the crap!

ALL pool games have an element of luck in them from the instant you break off.

Let's try and get on without the usual bull and have a sensible discussion

I vote to lower Straight to one but not remove and add Killer to FBL fixtures (e.g. Winning Team gets 1 points, Second Team 0 with 3 Players (or more if teams agree but must be even)) with a Knockout Phase of maybe the top 3 clans playing a Final of 5 players each.

I would raise types to 8 frames, 1 point each, Straight 4 frames worth 2 points each.

If Arcade got added at anytime then i would do...

Arcade - 16 Frames worth 1 point each
Regular - 8 Frames worth 2 points each
Straight - 4 Frames worth 4 points each

Just my opinion

Is this aimed at me? I'm not really sure what your point is anyway...

The discussion isn't about luck involved with the various types, the discussion is about whether straight is popular enough to warrant a presence in the league - And my original suggestion that the straight format should be changed to something more adequate (either make a decent format or drop it)

This suggestion relies on the current format of individual matches, reading back through the past few pages the general consensus seems to be FBL to be counting purely frames next season. (I also don't think there's enough interest in the Arcades for them to warrant being present in the league)

If that happens then all types present need to have equal weighting, and it needs to be decided whether all frames are to be played or whether each game is a best of.

If all frames are to be played then individual match-ups need to be recorded to differentiate between two equal standing teams.

If all individual matchups are a best-of then frame difference would suffice to differentiate teams.

I'd suggest something more along the lines of (dropping the killer cup);

2x8US (10 frames, point a frame)
2x9Ball (10 frames, point a frame)
2x8UK (10 frames, point a frame)
2x Straight (5 frames, 2 points a frame)
1x Killer (6 points winner, 3 points second, 1 point third)

Individual match results are recorded as to differentiate tied teams

I like the killer seperatethink its a good addition to clans the killer cup.

Only change i would make is no Killer Preliminary

Lesson Learnt-: Keep your opinions to yourself Ash from now on - it's just bloody pathetic the amount of crap anyone gets who people disagree with.

Probably another contributing factor to the decline in clans and the site tbh.

We were having a perfectly amicable discussion until you had a sly dig at me and Uprising....

http://www.funkypool.com/thread/20038/fcl-general-discussion/65#1763534


I do like the inclusion of Killer in the FBL as then all types are present for the league (bar the Arcades but not sure the interest is there).

I didn't see that as a dig but sorry if you took it that way. Was more a tongue in cheek comment that's all nothing malicious.

Theres so many on your list because captains had to swap them around because they were getting bored watching rather than getting the chance to pot.

5 frames of straight lol, are you being serious, I can understand why you would want that, easy win for you and plenty points for your clan, how many players in the smaller clans are going to beat you over 5 frames of straight lol

I've re-read, and considered again, every opinion posted, I still say
10 frames of others, worth 1 point each on overall table
5 games of straight, worth 2 points each on overall table
not torn up though if most want 8 and 4 instead.
2 indiv fixtures of each type

Every frame should be played, if they aren't I don't think it's truly frame count.
Stopping when indiv matches are decided would ruin it for me.

The odds of there being a tie at the season's end is very low with frame count. If there is though, I say just use the frame count from when those teams played each other directly (if they played twice, add the 2 together first).
If they're still tied (would be almost a miracle), have a play-off like keith mentioned doing in FCL.

I think killer should be added back to SL, SL needs something to make it more different than FCL anyway, beside just a shorter format.
and if people want arcade, I think it certainly belongs in SL, the league where anyone can win anyway.

Edited at 18:31 Fri 17/07/15 (BST)

15 subs/swaps in straight fixtures. 3 defaults. 92 total games.

That means out of 184 opportunites, the original player played the straight game 163 times, or a completion rate of 89%.

Tell me again how people are subbing and swapping because nobody wants to play straight??

How many of them are going in against the top players hoping to steal a frame or knowing they will lose ?
How many frames of straight did you lose all season and how many did you lose against clans outside the top 2 clans ?
By increasing straight to 5 frames is just going to give more points to the top teams.

An increase in any type would do that. I want the FBL to have a long format, for accuracy's sake.
The less skilled teams have SL to give them a chance.

Agree