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17:46 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
I was just trying to be a little considerate and thought the whole 'randomizing aspect' might have helped the site as a whole. Either way I'm happy as I have assembled a brilliant team and am looking forward to the new season already.
The FCL in my opinion is the most competitive league, followed by the FBL and no one really cares about the SL (only a few). Keeping the FCL as it is wasn't an issue it was trying to simply 'level the playing field for ALL sides and not just the usual 2 and Firestorm' for the FBL.
All good - i personally didn't see it being a contradiction.
The FCL in my opinion is the most competitive league, followed by the FBL and no one really cares about the SL (only a few). Keeping the FCL as it is wasn't an issue it was trying to simply 'level the playing field for ALL sides and not just the usual 2 and Firestorm' for the FBL.
All good - i personally didn't see it being a contradiction.
18:01 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Players don't want to play straight in clan leagues because if they get drawn against a certain group of players they know they will lose before it even starts and raising it from 2 to 4 or 5 games would only suit these top players even more, I would struggle to sit through 2 games nevermind more, as I said previously, it's the most boring game on here and if you add more games people will get bored after 15 mins of watching these top players having fun while they sit and watch, I could think of better ways to spend that time lol
Hold on....get rid of the straight matches because some people are too skilful for the rest? I'm not even sure what to say...
It's not like straight is not played by anyone, whenever I log in it seems that there are more straight games going that anything else.
The common complaint seems to be that clan players don't want to play straight. In my opinion this is down to straight players (like myself) not wanting to be forced into a terrible format that is pretty much pot luck (with only two frames).
As it stands, I don't want to be playing two frames of straight that I'm going to need a fair bit of fortune to win both (with ball splits especially in straight) when I can get a much better match in another type.
Give straight a decent format and the straight players will actually want to play it, unlike what we have now.
(One idea though - If there is that much of a problem couldn't one straight frame be dropped for a killer game, both given equal weighting to the rest of the types?)
It's not like straight is not played by anyone, whenever I log in it seems that there are more straight games going that anything else.
The common complaint seems to be that clan players don't want to play straight. In my opinion this is down to straight players (like myself) not wanting to be forced into a terrible format that is pretty much pot luck (with only two frames).
As it stands, I don't want to be playing two frames of straight that I'm going to need a fair bit of fortune to win both (with ball splits especially in straight) when I can get a much better match in another type.
Give straight a decent format and the straight players will actually want to play it, unlike what we have now.
(One idea though - If there is that much of a problem couldn't one straight frame be dropped for a killer game, both given equal weighting to the rest of the types?)
Players don't want to play straight in clan leagues because if they get drawn against a certain group of players they know they will lose before it even starts and raising it from 2 to 4 or 5 games would only suit these top players even more, I would struggle to sit through 2 games nevermind more, as I said previously, it's the most boring game on here and if you add more games people will get bored after 15 mins of watching these top players having fun while they sit and watch, I could think of better ways to spend that time lol
18:04 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Why should we give up on Straight, i know a lot of players who play it. Just because u dont like the type ab doesnt mean its boring.
18:07 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Have your own little straight league then, that way you keep it and the rest have the option to either play it or not - or as some would call it 'watch their opponent play' - becomes rather tedious after a while.
18:13 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
There's an idea, replace straight with killer and change the killer cup to the straight cup, then people can avoid straight because it's boring and they know the winner will come from a group of 5 or 6 players.
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18:13 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
That's your personal opinion as somebody who doesn't like straight. I think 9 ball is the most boring game on here as more often than not it's decided by luck of the balls. I struggle to sit through two frames of it. Doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.
There are plenty of straight players in the league. Just because you wouldn't like it and find it boring doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
Cap the frames at 35. With a 20 second shot clock someone is going to be sat there for a maximum of 11 and a half minutes a frame without a shot (presuming the opponent takes the full 20 seconds, every time, to take a shot which nobody does).
I hit a run of 30 every 2.7 frames. Worst way I'll clear in one visit 1 or 2 frames in a 5 frame match (and others can too!).
There are plenty of straight players in the league. Just because you wouldn't like it and find it boring doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
Cap the frames at 35. With a 20 second shot clock someone is going to be sat there for a maximum of 11 and a half minutes a frame without a shot (presuming the opponent takes the full 20 seconds, every time, to take a shot which nobody does).
I hit a run of 30 every 2.7 frames. Worst way I'll clear in one visit 1 or 2 frames in a 5 frame match (and others can too!).
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18:14 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Again, your opinion that straight is boring. It might not be a majority opinion!
There's an idea, replace straight with killer and change the killer cup to the straight cup, then people can avoid straight because it's boring and they know the winner will come from a group of 5 or 6 players.
Again, your opinion that straight is boring. It might not be a majority opinion!
18:14 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Then u can have an own league without Straight yourself, why do you have to change FBL just because u dont like it?
In Uprising we dont have many many players who like 9us, should we ask for 9us to be removed?
Have your own little straight league then, that way you keep it and the rest have the option to either play it or not - or as some would call it 'watch their opponent play' - becomes rather tedious after a while.
Then u can have an own league without Straight yourself, why do you have to change FBL just because u dont like it?
In Uprising we dont have many many players who like 9us, should we ask for 9us to be removed?
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18:15 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
As far as I can remember there has never been a decent match format for straight, with a maximum of 3 frames in the league (and 4 in the cup).
Does this not apply anymore because you don't agree?
As for saying the idea would reduce clans and not improve the site, we cannot say that for certain. I'm a firm believer in 'you don't know unless you try'. Surely trying something new is better than not trying at all and keeping to the norm?
Does this not apply anymore because you don't agree?
18:19 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Have you not got better things to do than sit and watch players like corsair hit big runs ? , most players join this site to play pool and have fun, not sit and watch while others hit big runs and have all the fun.
Why should we give up on Straight, i know a lot of players who play it. Just because u dont like the type ab doesnt mean its boring.
Have you not got better things to do than sit and watch players like corsair hit big runs ? , most players join this site to play pool and have fun, not sit and watch while others hit big runs and have all the fun.
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18:22 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Have you not got better things to do than sit and watch players like corsair hit big runs ? , most players join this site to play pool and have fun, not sit and watch while others hit big runs and have all the fun.
Cap the frames at 35. With a 20 second shot clock someone is going to be sat there for a maximum of 11 and a half minutes a frame without a shot (presuming the opponent takes the full 20 seconds, every time, to take a shot which nobody does).
I hit a run of 30 every 2.7 frames. Worst way I'll clear in one visit 1 or 2 frames in a 5 frame match on average (and others can too!).
Doesn't sound too bad to me, not like straight frames are going to be people sat there twiddling their thumbs whilst the opponent "has fun"!
Why should we give up on Straight, i know a lot of players who play it. Just because u dont like the type ab doesnt mean its boring.
Have you not got better things to do than sit and watch players like corsair hit big runs ? , most players join this site to play pool and have fun, not sit and watch while others hit big runs and have all the fun.
Cap the frames at 35. With a 20 second shot clock someone is going to be sat there for a maximum of 11 and a half minutes a frame without a shot (presuming the opponent takes the full 20 seconds, every time, to take a shot which nobody does).
I hit a run of 30 every 2.7 frames. Worst way I'll clear in one visit 1 or 2 frames in a 5 frame match on average (and others can too!).
Doesn't sound too bad to me, not like straight frames are going to be people sat there twiddling their thumbs whilst the opponent "has fun"!
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18:23 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
You're looking at around a half hour to forty minute match.
As I said before, make the straight game worth playing or don't bother including it at all!
As I said before, make the straight game worth playing or don't bother including it at all!
18:24 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Have you not got better things to do than sit and watch players like corsair hit big runs ? , most players join this site to play pool and have fun, not sit and watch while others hit big runs and have all the fun.
Why do i need to sit and watch players fluking 9 balls in 9us? Lets remove it too. Also lets remove 8uk as the pockets are too big.
If u dont want to watch corsair hit big runs, then improve your game and give him a challenge. Or should we ban corsair just because hes too good?lol
Why should we give up on Straight, i know a lot of players who play it. Just because u dont like the type ab doesnt mean its boring.
Have you not got better things to do than sit and watch players like corsair hit big runs ? , most players join this site to play pool and have fun, not sit and watch while others hit big runs and have all the fun.
Why do i need to sit and watch players fluking 9 balls in 9us? Lets remove it too. Also lets remove 8uk as the pockets are too big.
If u dont want to watch corsair hit big runs, then improve your game and give him a challenge. Or should we ban corsair just because hes too good?lol
18:25 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
That's a very good idea - I reckon IF all players were asked whether they'd like to play killer or straight - the majority would favour killer. So it's only fair to go with the majority after all it's a Players Site.
corsair you've said it yourself you get a run of 30 every 2.7 frames - why should anyone even bother to play or entertain you by gracing your table to watch you win which you claim to be 'the inevitable' anyway?
There are a select minority who play straight competitively, then there are others who play the type for fun. Still comparing it to 9us is pretty ironic, if you haven't got many players who like 9us then I suggest you or your Captain get recruiting 'pronto' -the other teams might try to exploit it now we have that valuable bit of information.
corsair you've said it yourself you get a run of 30 every 2.7 frames - why should anyone even bother to play or entertain you by gracing your table to watch you win which you claim to be 'the inevitable' anyway?
There are a select minority who play straight competitively, then there are others who play the type for fun. Still comparing it to 9us is pretty ironic, if you haven't got many players who like 9us then I suggest you or your Captain get recruiting 'pronto' -the other teams might try to exploit it now we have that valuable bit of information.
18:28 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
You should start recruiting straight players aswell Ash.
That's a very good idea - I reckon IF all players were asked whether they'd like to play killer or straight - the majority would favour killer. So it's only fair to go with the majority after all it's a Players Site.
corsair you've said it yourself you get a run of 30 every 2.7 frames - why should anyone even bother to play or entertain you by gracing your table to watch you win which you claim to be 'the inevitable' anyway?
There are a select minority who play straight competitively, then there are others who play the type for fun. Still comparing it to 9us is pretty ironic, if you haven't got many players who like 9us then I suggest you or your Captain get recruiting 'pronto' -the other teams might try to exploit it now we have that valuable bit of information.
corsair you've said it yourself you get a run of 30 every 2.7 frames - why should anyone even bother to play or entertain you by gracing your table to watch you win which you claim to be 'the inevitable' anyway?
There are a select minority who play straight competitively, then there are others who play the type for fun. Still comparing it to 9us is pretty ironic, if you haven't got many players who like 9us then I suggest you or your Captain get recruiting 'pronto' -the other teams might try to exploit it now we have that valuable bit of information.
You should start recruiting straight players aswell Ash.
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18:32 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
When did I claim me winning was inevitable??? I was simply stating that (on stats) a match wouldn't be a case of an opponent sitting there and watching me make runs as you and ab suggested.
What do you mean by play competitively as opposed to fun?? We all play for fun on here, some just prefer some types to others.
If you haven't got many players who like straight then I suggest you get recruiting "pronto" (works both ways).
If straight really is that hated by the majority then fine, but actually run a poll and ask them. Don't cater to a couple of people who shout the loudest.
That's a very good idea - I reckon IF all players were asked whether they'd like to play killer or straight - the majority would favour killer. So it's only fair to go with the majority after all it's a Players Site.
corsair you've said it yourself you get a run of 30 every 2.7 frames - why should anyone even bother to play or entertain you by gracing your table to watch you win which you claim to be 'the inevitable' anyway?
There are a select minority who play straight competitively, then there are others who play the type for fun. Still comparing it to 9us is pretty ironic, if you haven't got many players who like 9us then I suggest you or your Captain get recruiting 'pronto' -the other teams might try to exploit it now we have that valuable bit of information.
corsair you've said it yourself you get a run of 30 every 2.7 frames - why should anyone even bother to play or entertain you by gracing your table to watch you win which you claim to be 'the inevitable' anyway?
There are a select minority who play straight competitively, then there are others who play the type for fun. Still comparing it to 9us is pretty ironic, if you haven't got many players who like 9us then I suggest you or your Captain get recruiting 'pronto' -the other teams might try to exploit it now we have that valuable bit of information.
When did I claim me winning was inevitable??? I was simply stating that (on stats) a match wouldn't be a case of an opponent sitting there and watching me make runs as you and ab suggested.
What do you mean by play competitively as opposed to fun?? We all play for fun on here, some just prefer some types to others.
If you haven't got many players who like straight then I suggest you get recruiting "pronto" (works both ways).
If straight really is that hated by the majority then fine, but actually run a poll and ask them. Don't cater to a couple of people who shout the loudest.
18:39 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
We are in the great position to have players for ALL types, that's how I recruit my players. I just know that IF straight was replaced with Killer and obviously with it being a more team orientated game type then I'm sure the straight players wouldn't mind too much.
Create a straight league that would be the best option I feel would be interesting to see and the format plus rules can be modified to however you guys like.
We all do play for fun but fun is not watching a player clear frame in frame out (well not to me it isn't) when we all log on to participate. Granted there are some who do not mind watching their opponents hit great runs and pick up tips on how to play but they can do that in a none competitive environment or join the straight league I keep mentioning.
Create a straight league that would be the best option I feel would be interesting to see and the format plus rules can be modified to however you guys like.
We all do play for fun but fun is not watching a player clear frame in frame out (well not to me it isn't) when we all log on to participate. Granted there are some who do not mind watching their opponents hit great runs and pick up tips on how to play but they can do that in a none competitive environment or join the straight league I keep mentioning.
18:47 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
U stay here moralising how we should keep players happy for the best of the site and then u exclude straight players from playing in the leagues. Youre just too funny Ash.
18:50 Fri 17 Jul 15 (BST) [Link]
Keep One Straight but don't remove it altogether just because you don't like it. I don't like 8UK in league, do i have grounds to remove that? or how about safety play? maybe Killer too as it could be at a inconvenient time?
Sorry but sounds poor on paper, if you don't like Straight, don't play, i mean i had to play Straight for Knights and did it with dignity even though i had to face guys like Sam. Yes i knew i would lose before it starts but sometimes you need to sacrifice.
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Sorry but sounds poor on paper, if you don't like Straight, don't play, i mean i had to play Straight for Knights and did it with dignity even though i had to face guys like Sam. Yes i knew i would lose before it starts but sometimes you need to sacrifice.
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