I understand fine dgen, it's you that struggled here. Why would I mean you if you didn't argue it?

Re read the rules about the bit in bold mate...

As has been stated the 31 day rule hasn't been in force for a few seasons now so there isn't a need to debate about this any longer , I wasn't sure in the first place so seeked clarification from horse

Also its up to me who I sign be it a class player or not

To be fair mate the 31 day account rule for signings during the season is in the league rules on the site.

Needs amended then

Mich I was referring to
Nike on this

1.11 Free Agents
Any free agents signed during a season, apart from during the designated transfer window, must have an account that has been registered for 31 days, or more before being eligible to play.


and mirrr
on this one
1.4 Player transfers
Prior to the season commencing clan rosters for the season must be submitted to the League Runners to be registered. They will then be maintained on the Team Lists page of this website.

At the point that the Fixture Set 1 games are released the clan rosters are locked. No player may then transfer to another clan.

_mich_
both of these rules have been breached in recent days
I just don't agree with, both set precedents I believe neither is good for clans

In my opinion

Them rules have been breached for the last 2 seasons so what's the difference?

They were breached that much that I wasn't aware they still existed...

Edited at 13:27 Tue 28/04/15 (BST)

The 31 days rule has been in play for the last few seasons. The difference is that it doesn't apply to signings before the season starts. As far as I am aware this has been the first exception to the rules in terms of a player signing since before chris was in charge of the leagues (bar the Underdog's fiasco which everyone seems to agree with necessary).

For the first time ever I actually agree with the_priest and huts here (don't get used to it ).

If Pro's are struggling they can recruit players. However, it seems here that they have recruited a very good player (based off stats) and have been allowed to play him almost straight away.

I know, having spoken to faust, that Uprising were in the race to sign nike. Had he signed for us would we have been granted special dispensation to play him? I don't believe so - Which isn't exactly fair on the rest of the league. Pro's have been handed an advantage here.

The rules are there in plain sight for everybody to see. Every clan that signs up to the league accepts to adhere to the rules and should be aware of them. There should be no special dispensation on things like this and rules should not be changed halfway through the season.

I asked Keith if nike could play , Keith granted my request I'm pretty sure if any captain was struggling this request would have been granted also

I have no problem with Nike's results being squashed , and before you say it I know he lost a game but if everyone is making this big deal out of it i guess it's the fair thing to do

horse10000

Now things have happened. I wouldn't want either nike's results to be quashed, or for mirrr to have to return to Scorpions. All I want is to have a set of rules and stick to them 100%, or be 100% non-restrictive. I'm not trying to place criticism on anyone, and in fact both situations involve friends. It is just the system I have concerns about!

This season, I have had to force 2 real life friends into joining, scour funkysnooker for willing converts, and take some risks on players that wouldn't traditionally play for a top 2/3 team. This is a result of having 5 very good competitive teams for the first time in ages, which is great! However, if we're recruiting within the current rules - I kinda think everyone else should too.

Jeeez i retire

Agree with all of the above !

Being one of nikes opponents, I was happy with playing him when I knew Keith had given the go ahead, I am sure his other opponent/s felt the same way or they'd be here kicking off.

I'm not just saying this because I got a decent win against a great player, but it was clear to see before hand that me and Richie spoke about it and behind closed doors so did myself and Horse, both assured me it was fine.

I like most people in the league really don't care who I play I am here to have a laugh with pals and pass a bit of spare time I currently have.

I agree we need a bold stance on where everyone stands on ALL rules, but there are always going to be exceptions to some rules. The mirrr case could have been handled better by all parties involved, Lee could have released him and would have avoided this, runners could have consulted with Lee better. I could have waited before announcing it until Lee knew.

The nike case is completely different, we were from the evidence I saw from Keith and Richie, just moments away from seeing one of the best clans the site has seen folding because of a lack of players. I believe the right decision was made, and probably will be again if they sign anyone elseunder the 31 day limit.

Pros currently have 8 or 9 active players, why would we not allow someone to play and help keep them afloat if possible?

Bit of common sense is in order here I think.

But also a recap on the rules.

Hate agreeing with _mich_ but that's spot on!!!

mich
I truly don't have a problem with what's happened
but it should apply to every team

my point seems to be lost, Pros should sign any player
to get their team active, not just limited players with less than 31 days activity

what gives Pros the right to have a waiver, on only a top class player or players to sign
do what the rest of the teams have to do sign reliable players who may not be so good, if their struggling that's no ones else problem but their own

8 or 9 active players well sign players that may not be that good, or to their standard, just because the clan challenges for the top doesn't mean special privileges

some times you have to make do, if they cant
then no privilege's sorry, if they fold well so be it

just my opinion

was thinking same thing ^

Im sure that the rules would have been bent whoever they signed.

If it was hardy with 12 days on a new account or Nike, either way pros needed players he was available and that's who they wanted to sign.

I really don't see a problem.

Just as much if BS or FK were in a pickle the rules would be amended to help.

Never in a pickle mate - me and that Richard Branston fell out.

* was a naff joke, sorry

Edited at 00:20 Wed 29/04/15 (BST)

you seem to have missed my point. If they sign a 'reliable player' then they are ineligible anyway so special dispensation would be required to allow them to play so your asking the league runners to do exactly the same as what they are doing.

I hope I didn't fella, a reliable player with 31 days eligibility would be free to play straight away, just not within a current fixture release

so yes the player then would need special dispensation

all I'm saying is they could drop their standards and find reliable available players, (that any other team has had to do) maybe not just the selective best.
hopefully there are players currently available, but that is work they need to do