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_huts24_
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23:44 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm repeating myself cause I'm making the same point pmsl!! He would still be playing for the same team if he hadn't played the captain of his new clan! Show me a post before the match which indicates he is unhappy?

I'll not apologise for repeating I want the same rules to be applied to all players in the league regardless of who is involved.


if you look there's not 1 post about being unhappy , u know why ? its because he was fine playing for us until he was asked to join them , thats after he beat jimmy 11-4 .
dgeneratio
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23:45 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Agree it is a mistake without a Transfer Window .

if you read my last message to mirrr it does say at this time we wont be releasing anyone at this stage of the season. Does'nt say we would'nt not allow him to leave at all .

As u say you update things on this site and others do other things to make it work well so advice to league runner shouldnt be your job .


Not unless they ask for it which can only say how we felt at the time, its up to the runner to decide for themselves, if they chose to keep him there then i still wouldn't complain.

I do think the rule may need looking at though, maybe a transfer window so if players wan't to leave then they can at the window if captains doesn't release beforehand
_mich_
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23:45 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Oh and just for yourself Huts, I spoke to Dom well before he played Jimmy, have known him for years and have had him in a lot of my clans on here and been in some with him on snooker.

It had nothing to do with him humiliating Jimmy why we signed him, he mentioned to me he weren't happy there and he was gonna deactivate anyway. I mentioned we had a spot going so we tried to ask yourself and Harry to see if you would release, you declined so we took it to league runners to see if anything could be done.
dgeneratio
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23:50 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
surely if you are deciding to go against a rule you would consult both captains.


Nope as i'm not the Runner, as i keep explaining all we did was give our thoughts and if we would allow the move. I said yes but don't need to keep saying why. I just thought of the player and the situation and nothing more.

If i knew all this before then i would have been torn really.
_mich_
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23:51 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm repeating myself cause I'm making the same point pmsl!! He would still be playing for the same team if he hadn't played the captain of his new clan! Show me a post before the match which indicates he is unhappy?

I'll not apologise for repeating I want the same rules to be applied to all players in the league regardless of who is involved.


He wouldn't be in the team haha

He already assured me he was going to deactivate anyway because he didn't like the clan or the people (I can't use the exact phrase used on facebook as it could offend people) and to be faair Jimmy had no part in talking to Dom about signing with us anyway, it had nothing to do with the 2 of them playing. That's just your assumption.
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23:54 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm repeating myself cause I'm making the same point pmsl!! He would still be playing for the same team if he hadn't played the captain of his new clan! Show me a post before the match which indicates he is unhappy?

I'll not apologise for repeating I want the same rules to be applied to all players in the league regardless of who is involved.


He wouldn't be in the team haha

He already assured me he was going to deactivate anyway because he didn't like the clan or the people (I can't use the exact phrase used on facebook as it could offend people) and to be faair Jimmy had no part in talking to Dom about signing with us anyway, it had nothing to do with the 2 of them playing. That's just your assumption.
my battery is dead so I look forward to you showing me a single post saying he wasn't happy in the slightest prior to playing Jimmy when I come back on.

You seem to be missing the main point I don't give a toss wether he moved or not but now he did everyone should be allowed to move. Jimmy has every right to ask the question, it's the answer that we need to address.
zantetsukenz
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23:56 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm repeating myself cause I'm making the same point pmsl!! He would still be playing for the same team if he hadn't played the captain of his new clan! Show me a post before the match which indicates he is unhappy?

I'll not apologise for repeating I want the same rules to be applied to all players in the league regardless of who is involved.


if you look there's not 1 post about being unhappy , u know why ? its because he was fine playing for us until he was asked to join them , thats after he beat jimmy 11-4 .


I said this before as well, compare his posts at BS with XVth man and C&G. Posted more than just the results at XVth and C&G, people actually conversed with him at those two clans whereas at your clan he only got a reply from you and Harry when he posted a result and you said well done. He tried and got nothing. He didn't really post on your thread, uncharacteristically. His posting behaviour was clearly different when he was at BS, and it doesn't seem like a positive difference.

It makes no sense for him to post saying he was unhappy at BS, that wouldn't be seen in a positive light and the mature option was to sort it out offline which he tried. Show me a post where he is happy and settled at BS.
_mich_
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23:57 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm repeating myself cause I'm making the same point pmsl!! He would still be playing for the same team if he hadn't played the captain of his new clan! Show me a post before the match which indicates he is unhappy?

I'll not apologise for repeating I want the same rules to be applied to all players in the league regardless of who is involved.


He wouldn't be in the team haha

He already assured me he was going to deactivate anyway because he didn't like the clan or the people (I can't use the exact phrase used on facebook as it could offend people) and to be faair Jimmy had no part in talking to Dom about signing with us anyway, it had nothing to do with the 2 of them playing. That's just your assumption.
my battery is dead so I look forward to you showing me a single post saying he wasn't happy in the slightest prior to playing Jimmy when I come back on.

You seem to be missing the main point I don't give a toss wether he moved or not but now he did everyone should be allowed to move. Jimmy has every right to ask the question, it's the answer that we need to address.


I never said he posted on here saying he was unhappy before hand.

I said what they decided was by looking at his posts it indicated he was unhappy, or so that's what they said.

I said he told me he was unhappy there.
_mich_
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23:58 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I also said I have a problem with the rule I think players should be allowed to move but I also agree there should be some protection for the clan the player would be vacating, hence why I come up with the idea on the last page or 2, an't remember how far back it is now.
foxhound
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23:58 Mon 27 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Let's face it, he would have just deactivated and joined us under _mirrr_ or something anyway....move on folks and get on with your games. It's a league made for fun on an online pool game - not the world championships with a hundred thousand pound prize fund!
_mich_
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00:05 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Let's face it, he would have just deactivated and joined us under _mirrr_ or something anyway....move on folks and get on with your games. It's a league made for fun on an online pool game - not the world championships with a hundred thousand pound prize fund!


He wouldn't as that's against rules!
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00:05 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
If he deactivates he deactivates. Also Zante I didn't realise psychology came into the decision making process. We won't message huts but we will do a full psychological analysis! Lol.

Again chips and gravyers its not about mirrr, it's about the next person that wants to move. The league runners let one person move, they should let everyone. I don't understand why rather than arguing the case for mirrrs move which is becoming more ludicrous each post trying to justify it they don't just say ok now we all can.
_mich_
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00:08 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
If he deactivates he deactivates. Also Zante I didn't realise psychology came into the decision making process. We won't message huts but we will do a full psychological analysis! Lol.

Again chips and gravyers its not about mirrr, it's about the next person that wants to move. The league runners let one person move, they should let everyone. I don't understand why rather than arguing the case for mirrrs move which is becoming more ludicrous each post trying to justify it they don't just say ok now we all can.


I think the majority of people would agree that all should be able to move, but not to an extent where it would ruin a clan.
zantetsukenz
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00:25 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No psychological analysis, just an inference. You said there was no evidence of him being unhappy in his posts, yet there was no evidence of him being happy and settled. If someone was happy and settled then their posts would reflect this, if someone wasn't happy their posts wouldn't show unhappiness.

We were aware that huts had messaged mirrr and said no, but didn't know the exact content of the message. It's irrelevant to know exactly what is said, so why do we need to pm huts to get information that is irrelevant. There is no standard way of the decision making process, each person will come through a different train of thought. If a standard conclusion can be made through different paths then that is a good thing because the outcome then is more objective.
foxhound
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00:26 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm sure a couple of seasons ago everybody was given a 'free transfer card' and we did away with the window. Basically anyone could transfer to another clan at any point in the season (and start playing from the next fixture set) once and only once.
_huts24_
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00:36 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No psychological analysis, just an inference. You said there was no evidence of him being unhappy in his posts, yet there was no evidence of him being happy and settled. If someone was happy and settled then their posts would reflect this, if someone wasn't happy their posts wouldn't show unhappiness.

We were aware that huts had messaged mirrr and said no, but didn't know the exact content of the message. It's irrelevant to know exactly what is said, so why do we need to pm huts to get information that is irrelevant. There is no standard way of the decision making process, each person will come through a different train of thought. If a standard conclusion can be made through different paths then that is a good thing because the outcome then is more objective.


you have some players that hate threads and dont post anything at all dont mean they are unhappy . you cant think or guess things like that zante . proof is no sign of him being unhappy not 1 post saying negative things .

fact is he got an offer and he wanted to pursue it .
zantetsukenz
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00:41 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No psychological analysis, just an inference. You said there was no evidence of him being unhappy in his posts, yet there was no evidence of him being happy and settled. If someone was happy and settled then their posts would reflect this, if someone wasn't happy their posts wouldn't show unhappiness.

We were aware that huts had messaged mirrr and said no, but didn't know the exact content of the message. It's irrelevant to know exactly what is said, so why do we need to pm huts to get information that is irrelevant. There is no standard way of the decision making process, each person will come through a different train of thought. If a standard conclusion can be made through different paths then that is a good thing because the outcome then is more objective.


you have some players that hate threads and dont post anything at all dont that mean they are unhappy . you cant think or guess things like that zante . proof is no sign of him being unhappy not 1 post saying negative things .

fact is he got an offer and he wanted to pursue it .

He posted just fine while at XVth man and now at C&G, so he clearly doesn't hate threads. He was clearly happy and settled at XVth man, clearly happy and settling at C&G. Yet he never was at BS. Again, someone not happy with their clan wouldn't post negative things about that clan else they wouldn't get picked and would get a reputation. A happy person would post happy things, he didn't.

The real fact is you are unhappy at losing a player and want to use the rules against a rival, there is no worry about protection of your clan because it hasn't effected your clan. He was gone anyway. The rules aren't in place for spite, so it is a perfectly reasonable ruling.
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00:46 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No psychological analysis, just an inference. You said there was no evidence of him being unhappy in his posts, yet there was no evidence of him being happy and settled. If someone was happy and settled then their posts would reflect this, if someone wasn't happy their posts wouldn't show unhappiness.

We were aware that huts had messaged mirrr and said no, but didn't know the exact content of the message. It's irrelevant to know exactly what is said, so why do we need to pm huts to get information that is irrelevant. There is no standard way of the decision making process, each person will come through a different train of thought. If a standard conclusion can be made through different paths then that is a good thing because the outcome then is more objective.
show me a post that I've posted on unbeatables thread that specifically shows I am happy and settled at unbeatables. Dgen said had he know something huts said since he might have said no had he known it before. That to me says you should have contacted huts. Your reasoning is ridiculous. You go on what wasn't said as much as if not more than what was said! Again he can move back and forward and deactivate and then re activate as much as he likes for all I care, I would just like it confirmed we can all move now please or was this the exception to the rule therefor bringing into question the integrity of the decision.
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00:47 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Look, it's mirrr and the chips clan spitting their dummy!!

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You can post as many times as you like that it's fair! When all is said and done mich, horse, dgen and others have come out of this looking silly. Just because your lapdog team mates run in adding backup doesn't make it fair. Reading your replies trying to justify making exception for an attention seeking baby is laughable and quite frankly embarrassing.

Respect to faust for his earlier post stating he doesn't like certain peoples views, but right is right. Also respect to onevisit for putting his side across in a way that shows this situation for exactly what it is!

Hutts, we know he's done you over here and others have let it go on
zantetsukenz
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01:03 Tue 28 Apr 15 (BST)  [Link]  
http://www.funkypool.com/thread/20004/unbeatables-if-only-carlsberg-made-threads/35#1738075

You settled in UB, giving your opinion on number of sides for SL. That suggests someone settled in when they are giving their opinion on the clans future and actually having a conversation with someone on the thread.

What could huts have said that would've changed dgen's mind that he didn't already know? huts said if you read my last message to mirrr, dgen said huts hadn't sent it in so couldn't read it. Of course new information could change his mind because he is making a decision based on all information. If dgen wanted more information then he could've messaged him. But there was nothing to suggest the post held anything more than we already knew and looking at the post that is still true.
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