Opposed by a few would be better and more substantial though instead of one, then moving on to another discussion?

Not really, if the point stands then it is valid whether one person makes it or several make it. If not then others would pick it up.

Where one person has made a point, one person has opposed. Where multiple people have made a point, multiple people have opposed. You're making a point to the clan community, not just the runners - the content of the post remain much more important than whoever puts forward the content.

Already said that I won't be joining this league because of the new scoring system, I have always enjoyed FBL so i'm still arguing for the scoring system that has always been in place in all leagues to remain.
I haven't the time to make my own league thankyou very much and if you think like that can you please remove your 10000 speeches, moans and rants from all the league discussion threads

oooh dear lee

ive asked for the scoring to be the same
your so bitter

have a good evening, you cant resist can you

It hasn't always been in place though, like I said

Whether you participate it entirely up to you and you are entitled to your own opinion, but others are looking forward to this system as it is a fresh step. Only time will tell how it does but it's set to be a fantastic season for many reasons.

How can you ask for the scoring to be the same but say if you don't like the rules don't join?
Scooby doo is less confused than you craig!

more insults lee
very shallow

Frames have always been counted, you know what we are talking about when the scoring is mentioned.
Haven't seen any excitement regarding this system on any page or by anyone apart from you to be honest and as I said before none of the many flaws have been answered regarding it.

1)People enjoy playing decent games first and foremost a match being over in 3 frames win or lose isn't fun.

2)A 4-3 loss against the likes of seb or dvz is a great result for 95% of the league yet with this system you get no reward for winning 3 frames

3)Tactical subs and swaps will ensue as the best way for a mid table team to compete with a top team would now be matching their best players against the top teams worst leaving people to just take beatings against the top players for the team.

4)There is no difference in the league between a team getting thumped in every game to losing by 1 frame in each which only makes the league interesting for 2 or 3 teams

Previously wins, not frames, have been counted

the__priest, fattmikee, w_hoolahan, dgeneratio, myself and the runners all have posted against change of what we currently have

1) It has been previously, so why shouldn't it now? If it really was that unpopular FBL would've flopped long ago - as well as other leagues.

2) true, but you still have lost. I think you mean 4-2 anyway (6 frames not 7), the reward they get over winning two frames over zero frames is a better frame difference - which could potentially decide places. Accrinton Stanley could lose 4-3 to Man City, it would be a brilliant result for them but they would get nothing for it.

3) that issue isn't just restricted to this system and isn't really going to be more prevalent, any tactical subs are open to both sides and they have no guarantee of working. The stronger team could do that to ensure they get points as well instead of gambling by putting their strongest player against someone capable of beating them. Besides, the different formats ensure it's not as straight forward as that - the mid table teams best player might be a straight specialist, the top teams worst might be a UK player. Swapping the better player into a type he may be worse at could backfire big time.

4) There is still frame difference which may be what separates teams. Besides you've already argued that the lesser teams have a better chance over shorter frames so they should be able to score in a similar fashion to the old system

i dont know why all of you make all this debate about the new rules. each format has it pros and coins, and me personally i am looking forward to the next season. Certainly there are things that can be made better, but overall its a good format in my point of view

1) Last time there was only 6 frames to play you at least got to play the 6 frames, this time the match is over after 4 are won.

2)This is nothing like football, a goal isnt the same as winning a frame it is more like potting a ball...a frame is a game itself.

3)There is no way on earth that people won't put their best players into more easily winnable games with the new system...be crazy not to as winning matches is all that counts for anything.
It will be massively more prevelant because in the old system your best player getting good points in a loss against their best player was valuable as opposed to meaningless.

4)Why have frame difference if a win is a win no matter the scoreline in your opinion?
Luck being more of a factor is not a good argument for anything either

That seems to be a post saying don't debate whilst debating..fancy that

So at least there is a way for them to compete. That has to be an improvement.

No fun for the top players getting poor players put against them as no challenge.
No fun for the poor players getting put against top players so the teams best players get easier games.
No improvement at all

1) It's exactly the same as last time, and you need to play every frame for the frame difference.

2) A goal is not like anything on pool because they aren't comparable like that. A close fought loss against an opponent much much better is comparable though.

3) That is exactly the same as current games, put your player in against someone who they can score higher against to guarantee a good amount of frames won. It won't be more prevalent because in that example above the team misses out on a big scoring opportunity to ensure the opponent does. It would mean another player gets a narrow win instead of a big loss - swings and roundabouts. It doesn't change in the system.

4) As an additional seperator, like there always is in any competition. If luck isn't a good argument for anything then why did you use it to justify playing more frames?

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If most of the top players worried about that then they would not congregate in 2 or 3 clans. We would then spread players evenly across all clans so all are competitive and all faced competitive games regularly.

I don't see that happening though.

No, it means debating to this length not just debating. You've given in without trying the format, when all formats have good and bad points but it's an exciting prospect

I have always relished the prospect of playing a top player, it's the best way to learn and improve yourself.

That's an opinion not a fact, I don't see any bad points with the old system as i'm sure the massive majority of the league didn't either.
I also honestly don't see 1 good point with the new system hence why I debate it.