So you want the straight to be worth more than the other types? I think 6 is fine, back to how it used to be so nothing new.

Entrants

The Professionals (list provided)
Uprising (list provided)
The Unbeatables
Phoenix Storm
Wolf Pack (list provided)
Underdogs
Pocket Dynamos (list provided)
Ballbreakers (list provided)
T.F.S. (list provided)

Please can you send all team lists either to mattywellie, _pro__frog_ or pirate_steve.

Please note that team lists will be checked by the league runners who will make a decision on the viability and reliability of each before accepting their entry to the competition.

As all three leagues are asking for team lists at the same time, if you provide us with one we will use it for all of the leagues that you enter - unless you make us aware of any differences that you require there to be

Surely if you are getting destroyed every game then i would suggest that player tries to work on their own game. Yes i think straight should award more points, i also think killer should be returned but 3vs3 minimum. (Team)

What's the latest date to send in Team List?

Straight is just one type, there is no justification for placing a higher value on it and it seems hypocritical to do so when you don't want it in SL because as a game type it is weighted too highly (which is plainly isn't).

It's not about "working on your own game", it's supposed to be something to do for fun and to enjoy.

Winning, losing or drawing bares no significance on whether someone has played well. I would feel more satisfaction from a narrow loss to Seb than to a narrow victory versus one of the lowest scoring members in clans. If you only seek to improve when you lose and think you can take nothing from a draw then you have a very long way to go to be able to develop as a player and captain. A good performance does not necessarily lead to a good result and vice versa. Scoreline's are often not representative of play.

I presume it is ASAP as I think SL starts this Sunday, and all the leagues will use the same list unless told otherwise. You need to send in the list and then be accepted from that list so presumably around Friday without causing delay or risking exclusion

Hang on, that's a little personal!
I were saying that if I win I'm more content, not saying nothing to improve on. Losing then it's more obvious to improve (want to) and a draw, still none the wiser whether I can compete or not.

I agree a scoreline sometimes is not a true reflection but if it's losing on a continual basis then my game is not as good as I had thought. To bring in my Captaincy is a low blow to be honest, I've never said I'm the finished article, far from it.

It wasn't personal it was a generalisation, there are very few players who can say they had a perfect game. Until I hit a runout on every one of my breaks and clear off every single break of my opponents I'll know I have room for improvement. Whether I whitewash my opponent anyway or get whitewashed, the result means nothing to the improvement of my game - it is merely an indication of the level a player is currently at.

A draw indicates evenly matched players, I have no idea how that means you are none the wiser about your ability. A win is something to be achieved but it's the same for a draw or a loss, you can still show character in those games. For example, if I was 4-0 down playing awfully and focused myself to start performing I can get 4-4. It's possible because I've done that and I'm not the only one who has, that told me plenty and made me much wiser about my ability to compete.

You are confusing the results of a game with the difference between a result and the expected outcome. If I expect to lose 12-3 and I lose 8-7 then clearly my game is better than I thought. It's the overall amount of points you contribute to the team, not necessarily the results. You don't have to win to have a good result. (imagine two players who run the rack every frame but the final score ends 9-6, clearly my game is good if I hit 6 out of 6 runouts and don't get a shot in the others)

please keep the FBL the same
it isnt broken why fix it

6 of each game type
3 games of straight
2 points for each straight game

Craig it's:

8 frames each game type
4 games of straight
2 points each

So I don't know what game you were playing

Last season was 8 of each game type and 4 games of straight genius

The format has now been announced as what Craig said, so he is correct.

The current format is not 8 frames it's 6, he's saying he doesn't think this should be changed for the season about to start because there isn't a problem with it, even I can see that's what he means .

And it is rare i agree with Craig,but in this case i agree 100%
If it aint broke dont fix it LOL.

I don't think so zante mate, the new format is 2 frames of Straight so he were requesting it be the format he put.

It's just an oversight by him then, he doesn't want it changed and what people have suggested is a change from what runners have announced.

The point being change after everything decided nearly killed the league, why would the runners then do exactly the same thing this season?

A format has been announced, stability is needed now.

If it aint broke dont fix it means that it has worked well not that it has been introduced 2 days ago...come on have a break lol

Has it been decided? IF so what is the point in asking for 'Constructive Criticism or Feedback' until it's been tried and tested?

Sounds like they are undecided to be honest otherwise they would have been more stern and stated: This is the new Format, this is how the format will be.

Surely?

No it doesn't, it means that there hasn't been a problem with it and you can only fix a problem. If it was like the above then we would only have one league still since it has always worked well on the whole.

how can there have been a problem with it when there hasn't been a game played...nonsense, there was no problem with the game format last season so if it aint broke don't fix it applies to that and everything else that you have been arguing against.

Well for one it has been used before, and constructive criticism can be useful for making long term decisions and not just short term. The openness of the wording I gather was to engage the response of a wider population (some good, some bad - which is positive), and to avoid being lumped in with the previous management which some called a dictatorship (if it was it hasn't been the first)