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zantetsukenz
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00:36 Mon 3 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
no, what you put is an opinion because that is what you see (subjective). No system is perfect, therefore all have bad points. No logical system is completely dysfunctional, therefore all have good points.

How about defaults? (in a close match)

A one-sided default skews the overall reflection (6-0 could easily alter the fixtures outcome more so than any of the other games did, where 6-0 is the least likely score to get)

Using this system, the default doesn't skew the outcome as much and is exactly the same weighting as the other games.
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01:12 Mon 3 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
no, what you put is an opinion because that is what you see (subjective). No system is perfect, therefore all have bad points. No logical system is completely dysfunctional, therefore all have good points.

How about defaults? (in a close match)

A one-sided default skews the overall reflection (6-0 could easily alter the fixtures outcome more so than any of the other games did, where 6-0 is the least likely score to get)

Using this system, the default doesn't skew the outcome as much and is exactly the same weighting as the other games.


In a game where frames are counted there are 44 frames at stake whereas there are 16 points in your 2 points for a win situation so a 2-0 has exactly the same effect as a 6-0.
Where frames are counted though the default panel has a lot of different options as regards scorelines making a fairer scoreline a lot more achievable.
zantetsukenz
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01:26 Mon 3 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
In a game where frames are counted there are 44 frames at stake whereas there are 16 points in your 2 points for a win situation so a 2-0 has exactly the same effect as a 6-0.
Where frames are counted though the default panel has a lot of different options as regards scorelines making a fairer scoreline a lot more achievable.


There are 40 frames, but if you added the extra frames to straight to even up all types then it's 48 frames/points (either 6 frames or 3 frames worth 2 points each). Most games will cause a change of less than 6 (3-3 = no change, 4-2 = change of 2, 5-1 = change of 4. 6-0 = change of 6). Very few matches will be 6-0, so all will have a smaller effect. Whereas that one-sided default would cause a change bigger than the games actually played. Therefore 1 default match has had a bigger impact than 1 played match (and it is potentially rewarding to go for a default).

In the alternative system, the game is either a change of 2 (a win-loss) or no change (draw-draw). A one-sided default will end up 2-0, so will have the same impact as one game played (so the reward for going for a default is reduced, as the impact will be no bigger than a game played).

Defaults are subjective, and most will have some varying opinion - though most will agree on an outcome (Having witnessed this myself on a defaults panel). It's much easier and fairer to award a default in the new system
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19:56 Tue 4 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Current FBL Entrants

The Professionals (list provided)
Uprising (list provided)
The Unbeatables
Phoenix Storm
Wolf Pack (list provided)
Underdogs
Pocket Dynamos (list provided)
Ballbreakers (list provided)
T.F.S. (list provided)
Monkey Business (list provided)

Zantetsukenz will now be joining the league runners' team for this season.

The league sign-ups will close tomorrow midnight GMT. This is to ensure enough time for us to draw up schedules and such before the FCL start date on Sunday 9th February.

Please can you send all team lists either to pirate_steve, mattywellie, _pro__frog_ or zantetsukenz.

Please note that team lists will be checked by the league runners who will make a decision on the viability and reliability of each before accepting their entry to the competition.

As all three leagues are asking for team lists at the same time, if you provide us with one we will use it for all of the leagues that you enter - unless you make us aware of any differences that you require there to be

The FCL will start on the 9th February.
The FBL will start on the 16th February.
The Super League provisional start date is currently set at the 19th February (based on current entrants).

Team Lists can be changed up to the start of the respective league

All rules can be found on the FBL website;

www.thefunkypoolbilliardsleague.weebly.com
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20:56 Wed 5 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just sent Steve are Team Sheet for FBL
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23:34 Wed 5 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Current FBL Entrants

The Professionals (list provided)
Uprising (list provided)
The Unbeatables (list provided)
Phoenix Storm (list provided)
Wolf Pack (list provided)
Underdogs
Pocket Dynamos (list provided)
Ballbreakers (list provided)
T.F.S. (list provided)
Monkey Business (list provided)

Zantetsukenz will now be joining the league runners' team for this season.

The league sign-ups will close tomorrow midnight GMT. This is to ensure enough time for us to draw up schedules and such before the FCL start date on Sunday 9th February.

Please can you send all team lists either to pirate_steve, mattywellie, _pro__frog_ or zantetsukenz.

Please note that team lists will be checked by the league runners who will make a decision on the viability and reliability of each before accepting their entry to the competition.

As all three leagues are asking for team lists at the same time, if you provide us with one we will use it for all of the leagues that you enter - unless you make us aware of any differences that you require there to be

The FCL will start on the 9th February.
The FBL will start on the 16th February.
The Super League provisional start date is currently set at the 19th February (based on current entrants).

Team Lists can be changed up to the start of the respective league

All rules can be found on the FBL website;

www.thefunkypoolbilliardsleague.weebly.com

Edited at 21:55 Wed 05/02/14 (GMT)
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23:36 Wed 5 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I've sent in Phoenix Storm team lists last night to pirate_steve.
_pro__frog_
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02:40 Thu 6 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Current FBL Entrants

The Professionals (list provided)
Uprising (list provided)
The Unbeatables (list provided)
Phoenix Storm (list provided)
Wolf Pack (list provided)
Underdogs
Pocket Dynamos (list provided)
Ballbreakers (list provided)
T.F.S. (list provided)
Monkey Business (list provided)
Fighting Eagles

Zantetsukenz will now be joining the league runners' team for this season.

The league sign-ups will close tomorrow midnight GMT. This is to ensure enough time for us to draw up schedules and such before the FCL start date on Sunday 9th February.

Please can you send all team lists either to pirate_steve, mattywellie, _pro__frog_ or zantetsukenz.

Please note that team lists will be checked by the league runners who will make a decision on the viability and reliability of each before accepting their entry to the competition.

As all three leagues are asking for team lists at the same time, if you provide us with one we will use it for all of the leagues that you enter - unless you make us aware of any differences that you require there to be

The FCL will start on the 9th February.
The FBL will start on the 16th February.
The Super League provisional start date is currently set at the 19th February (based on current entrants).

Team Lists can be changed up to the start of the respective league

All rules can be found on the FBL website;

www.thefunkypoolbilliardsleague.weebly.com
_pro__frog_
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Posts: 12,419
18:55 Thu 6 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Current FBL Entrants

The Professionals (list provided)
Uprising (list provided)
The Unbeatables (list provided)
Phoenix Storm (list provided)
Wolf Pack (list provided)
Underdogs
Pocket Dynamos (list provided)
Ballbreakers (list provided)
T.F.S. (list provided)
Monkey Business (list provided)
Fighting Eagles (list provided)

Zantetsukenz will now be joining the league runners' team for this season.

The league sign-ups will close tomorrow midnight GMT. This is to ensure enough time for us to draw up schedules and such before the FCL start date on Sunday 9th February.

Please can you send all team lists either to pirate_steve, mattywellie, _pro__frog_ or zantetsukenz.

Please note that team lists will be checked by the league runners who will make a decision on the viability and reliability of each before accepting their entry to the competition.

As all three leagues are asking for team lists at the same time, if you provide us with one we will use it for all of the leagues that you enter - unless you make us aware of any differences that you require there to be

The FCL will start on the 9th February.
The FBL will start on the 16th February.
The Super League provisional start date is currently set at the 19th February (based on current entrants).

Team Lists can be changed up to the start of the respective league

All rules can be found on the FBL website;

www.thefunkypoolbilliardsleague.weebly.com
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01:20 Fri 7 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sign-ups are now closed. Every clan has entered the FBL & FCL whilst we have a respectable 16 entrants in the SL.

FBL & FCL

The Professionals (list provided)
Uprising (list provided)
The Unbeatables (list provided)
Phoenix Storm (list provided)
Wolf Pack (list provided)
Underdogs
Pocket Dynamos (list provided)
Ballbreakers (list provided)
T.F.S. (list provided)
Monkey Business (list provided)
Fighting Eagles (list provided)


SL

Uprising (SL4 Runners-Up)
Uprising Ultras
The Underdogs
Underdogsbite
Raging Phoenix
Phoenix Inferno
Wild Pack
Pack Attack
Professionals A
Professionals B
TFS
FFS
Ballbreakers
Monkey Business
Monkey Life
The Unbeatables


Team lists can be changed up until the start of the respective league. The league schedule is currently being finalised for the FCL start this Sunday - Team sheets for first fixtures will be requested Saturday morning
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21:08 Sat 8 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
FBL season schedule has now been finalised and can be found on the website;

http://thefunkypoolbilliardsleague.weebly.com/league-season--fixtures.html

League is due to start on the 16th so team sheets will be requested sometime later next week
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22:22 Sun 16 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
First round of FBL fixtures are out and can be found here;

http://thefunkypoolbilliardsleague.weebly.com/fixture-set-1.html

First round of Cup Fixtures are out and can be found here;

http://thefcl.weebly.com/group-stages-overview.html

Also, the Super League is due to start on Wednesday. The draw has now been done and groups and draws can be found on the website. Could we please have Team Sheets by Wednesday evening please;

http://funkypoolsuperleague.weebly.com/group-stages.html

Deadline for the FBL & Cup fixtures is the 23rd February.
Deleted User
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23:04 Sun 16 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Also - This is just a general announcement.

When teams submit team sheets or make enquiries could you please keep all communication to the same message until that message exchange is full?

Currently (haven't had a chance to check with the other runners) I'm getting everyone starting a new message every time they want to get in touch and it's getting incredibly hectic on this end.

I know it's a slight hassle but it would make things much easier for us and remove the likelihood of mistakes.

Cheers
tinie
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23:06 Sun 16 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  


Edited at 21:14 Sun 16/02/14 (GMT)
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23:07 Sun 16 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Also 1 week deadline for both? FBL and GSC?
tinie
tinie
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23:08 Sun 16 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Also 1 week deadline for both? FBL and GSC?


Yeah i thought that was a bit odd also...
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23:13 Sun 16 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sorry, I can't use my calendar

Deadline is the 2nd March for Cup and FBL.
_pro__frog_
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02:36 Mon 17 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
As the FBL has undergone a few rules changes, it would be much appreciated if you take the time to read through rules on the website:

http://thefunkypoolbilliardsleague.weebly.com/rules1.html

Any further questions not addressed on the website should be directed to one of the runners

Thanks
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03:22 Mon 17 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Straight seems a bit light in the cup, all the frames for the other games have been doubled but only 2 straight?
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03:46 Mon 17 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Straight seems a bit light in the cup, all the frames for the other games have been doubled but only 2 straight?


How about 2 to start with and only a 3rd frame if 1-1, 2-0 means game over. Straight should have an actual winner I feel. (2 points per frame still)

Very easy to implement and could be used straight away.
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