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11:14 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
I can only speak from the perspective of my own clan, but Uprising aren't in favour of less leagues, unless there is a way to do it and still have as many games. It's a struggle giving all our players enough games, but we can just about manage it with three leagues. We don't have any players that feel they have too many fixtures, and pretty much everyone would be happy to play more games.

All three leagues was contested right until the end last season, and I thought it was the best season in years because of this. I fail to see the benefits of sacking off 2 successful formats. I also think that cutting down would punish us for putting an active team together that wants to play matches. If 3 is too many leagues for your clan, only enter 1 or 2. If you're a clan player and you feel under pressure to play games, don't join a clan!

Maybe clan size needs reduced ?


YES!!! Less allowed in a clan the more clans we could have!
fuunky
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11:42 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
How many would be in favour of this if they weren't struggling for players or stuck with inactive ones??
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12:57 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
When are the next lot of fixtures being released?
cke1982
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13:07 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Cutting squad sizes punishes every competent captain in the league. Me and Eri have put in time and effort to recruit, develop relationships and a working team of 16. Why should we have to boot a player that we don't want to lose, who also doesn't want to leave?


agree where getting rid of the unreliable and getting a reliable squad when there eligible why should we boot reliable players out if u cut clan sizes means less subs what means more defaults especially if a few go awol
cke1982
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13:08 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Underdogs could do with a few players I'm sure they could benefit from some of your calibre players


ive got a squad of 14 unfortunatley one isnt available due to the month rule getting rid of unreliable players and getting a more reliable squad what takes time why break that up
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14:05 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Haha remember when you had to bump your clan forum from the second page cause you didn't like it there and when the site was busy. Could anyone remind me if that was when the clans were smaller, the same or bigger? Just saying.
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erigert
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15:56 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
how many frames of straight are there in the Cup? it says 2 in the website, but i remember it was changed, right?
dgeneratio
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19:53 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
People don't want to create new clans because its difficult to find 16 players which is needed with all these leagues, if there was less leagues clans wouldn't need 16 so could be reduced and we might see more clans created, and I did say might.
Surely it would be better having one league and have one champion clan that could call themselves the best, at the moment no clan can say they are the best because theres the potential to have 3 different league champions, yeh its all very nice winning a league but means nothing if you can't call yourself the best.
16 isn't needed though that's only the maximum. The minimum is number of players allowed to play in one fixture as you can. Submit the same sheet so 16 isn't a vital number just the minimum.

Jo and Chris ran a clan with 8 or 9 players which is nearly the minimum so it is possible but need active players.

In my view keep it at 16 players as teams can have lower if they wish. 14 minimum so at least you have a few sub's available.
ang3l
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20:36 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
couldnt copy them fixtures .. But sorted now

Edited at 19:17 Mon 10/03/14 (GMT)
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22:15 Mon 10 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Is that FCL table actually up to date?
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10:36 Tue 11 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Is that FCL table actually up to date?
i couldnt get on yesterday , now up to date

Edited at 09:14 Tue 11/03/14 (GMT)
derik_dalton
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10:51 Tue 11 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
id like to offer my services to run the fcl for you next season (serious post)
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10:53 Tue 11 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
id like to offer my services to run the fcl for you next season (serious post)


Took a screen shot this rare ocassion of a serious post from you mate
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15:29 Tue 11 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
4 frames of straight in the cup Eri, I'l get the website changed when I can.

I'm not sure about the idea with reducing clan sizes - We did this over on snooker a couple of seasons ago and it has had little affect on the number of people in the league
ab_rfc
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15:53 Tue 11 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Reduce the amount of leagues and clan size and I'm pretty sure it will have an affect.
Try to look at the leagues from an outsiders point of view, too much hassle/arguments and all too confusing to get involved with, alot of members know how I feel about clans and why I refuse to play in them, thats mainly due to the way the whole clan scene is at the moment, to an outsider it just looks like a load of mumble jumble, sorry but thats my opinion.
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16:44 Tue 11 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Or make the FCL the Head League and the others minor ones but all inter-linked through the FCL website. (Anyways of hyper-linking results too?)
derik_dalton
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19:28 Tue 11 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
id like to offer my services to run the fcl for you next season (serious post)


Took a screen shot this rare ocassion of a serious post from you mate


It werent that serioius pal
the__priest
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02:38 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
a suggestion

my opinion,

although i agree with faust on building teams and the time its taken

but

clans and the number of games the animosity between players and clans to get games played is unreal, yes i am generalising

ab said something i found very interesting no one wins all 3 leagues so cant call themselves true champions

so a thought

one league 8 or 9 players have B teams not interchangeable
and play super league format
4 games of each
5 matches in a fixture
1 cup competition
individual singles
a true league cup
and a separate killer league

it will mean more captains more games a bigger league

thoughts please
zantetsukenz
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02:53 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Taking out leagues doesn't mean the winner of the league that is left is a true champion - I'd argue the opposite. You can only have a true champion with multiple leagues. Winning one leagues proved you see the best at one format whether there are other competitions or not. If you can win across multiple leagues unanimously then you could be considered truly the best. In recent times there's not been a clan to do this because there hasn't been a clan head and shoulders above the rest. Yes pros won more things but they were never unbeatable which is reflected in then not winning all leagues. Take away the leagues they never won doesn't mean they'd be a true champion, just the best at the remaining format. (Plus the cups have always been there and weren't always won by the winner of the league)

If less leagues are wanted I would recommend dropping the FBL and turning the SL into a pure cup competition (which it kind of is). I'm happy for the same format as this season but if dropping down is what is wanted I think that would be the best bet instead of bringing in something new again and potentially confusing players.
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