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15:02 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
I don't think they are too frequent, keeps everyone active and on their toes. Prioritise fixtures, meaning clear earlier deadlines, be one step ahead of the opposition with subs or tactics, disperse fixtures evenly so no ones too bombarded, if someone completes one of theirs and another player still has 3, even them up. Just pure common sense.
Keep communication with own players and sometimes speak with opponents, its all about organization.
Reason i say scrap the FBL is its already implemented in the GSC, the SL is good as it rewards events, FCL is still considered the best of the 3 IMO.
And scrap the killers, the bain of clan league life, they should remain as fun. Why should a team work their butts off in 5 individual matches only for their efforts be irrelevant due to 2 killer matches which if up against the sides with the best killer players they are technically 12-0 before even started. Its farcical.
Keep communication with own players and sometimes speak with opponents, its all about organization.
Reason i say scrap the FBL is its already implemented in the GSC, the SL is good as it rewards events, FCL is still considered the best of the 3 IMO.
And scrap the killers, the bain of clan league life, they should remain as fun. Why should a team work their butts off in 5 individual matches only for their efforts be irrelevant due to 2 killer matches which if up against the sides with the best killer players they are technically 12-0 before even started. Its farcical.
15:49 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
I think our killer games with ye prove that they do work, and when done right can be one of the best part of clans.
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15:51 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
And scrap the killers, the bain of clan league life, they should remain as fun. Why should a team work their butts off in 5 individual matches only for their efforts be irrelevant due to 2 killer matches which if up against the sides with the best killer players they are technically 12-0 before even started. Its farcical.
does that not just encourage you to sign good killer players as well? I along with a fair few others bargained long and hard to get killer involved in clans because it's like straight, it's a specialty game which requires different set of skills than just potting balls. Especially clan killer where you have to think about your teammate and how he's going to play and where you can take advantage of the lineup.
And scrap the killers, the bain of clan league life, they should remain as fun. Why should a team work their butts off in 5 individual matches only for their efforts be irrelevant due to 2 killer matches which if up against the sides with the best killer players they are technically 12-0 before even started. Its farcical.
does that not just encourage you to sign good killer players as well? I along with a fair few others bargained long and hard to get killer involved in clans because it's like straight, it's a specialty game which requires different set of skills than just potting balls. Especially clan killer where you have to think about your teammate and how he's going to play and where you can take advantage of the lineup.
15:54 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Exactly.. just because a team performs better in the 5 individual matches, why should that give them the right to win the match.
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16:13 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Reason i say scrap the FBL is its already implemented in the GSC, the SL is good as it rewards events, FCL is still considered the best of the 3 IMO.
All types are represented in the cup so I don't particularly understand this reasoning?
Can't you say the same about other types as well?
Personally I don't like the killer in the current system. I think it'd work nicer in the FBL so that all types are represented and are worth the same amount of points to the match.
I do agree that the workload for clans is too high at the moment. My personal preference would be to scrap the SL and maintain the FBL & FCL.
Reason i say scrap the FBL is its already implemented in the GSC, the SL is good as it rewards events, FCL is still considered the best of the 3 IMO.
All types are represented in the cup so I don't particularly understand this reasoning?
Why should a team work their butts off in 5 individual matches only for their efforts be irrelevant due to 2 killer matches which if up against the sides with the best killer players they are technically 12-0 before even started. Its farcical.
Can't you say the same about other types as well?
Personally I don't like the killer in the current system. I think it'd work nicer in the FBL so that all types are represented and are worth the same amount of points to the match.
I do agree that the workload for clans is too high at the moment. My personal preference would be to scrap the SL and maintain the FBL & FCL.
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16:25 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Ours worked great and were much fun, it's the inconsistency from arranging an event with reliable, co-operative people which the league lacks. Not all captains are exactly that. Also the lack of commitment from some leaves a lot to be desired.
Sean you and i sorted ours perfectly, let's hope others can follow suit.
I think our killer games with ye prove that they do work, and when done right can be one of the best part of clans.
Ours worked great and were much fun, it's the inconsistency from arranging an event with reliable, co-operative people which the league lacks. Not all captains are exactly that. Also the lack of commitment from some leaves a lot to be desired.
Sean you and i sorted ours perfectly, let's hope others can follow suit.
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16:30 Wed 12 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Reason i say scrap the FBL is its already implemented in the GSC, the SL is good as it rewards events, FCL is still considered the best of the 3 IMO.
All types are represented in the cup so I don't particularly understand this reasoning?
Can't you say the same about other types as well?
Personally I don't like the killer in the current system. I think it'd work nicer in the FBL so that all types are represented and are worth the same amount of points to the match.
I do agree that the workload for clans is too high at the moment. My personal preference would be to scrap the SL and maintain the FBL & FCL.
Not really as the killer works wonders for those who excel in it, the other game types have a more broader spectrum of players. 9us is down to luck and little skill, 8us and 8uk require more but these are the 3 main game types which players learn and acquire before joining a clan surely?
Killer worked best in the FBL, SL should be kind of like the Champions League (for the players who can hit runout after runout etc, event based). Supposed that being said, keep all 3 leagues.
Reason i say scrap the FBL is its already implemented in the GSC, the SL is good as it rewards events, FCL is still considered the best of the 3 IMO.
All types are represented in the cup so I don't particularly understand this reasoning?
Why should a team work their butts off in 5 individual matches only for their efforts be irrelevant due to 2 killer matches which if up against the sides with the best killer players they are technically 12-0 before even started. Its farcical.
Can't you say the same about other types as well?
Personally I don't like the killer in the current system. I think it'd work nicer in the FBL so that all types are represented and are worth the same amount of points to the match.
I do agree that the workload for clans is too high at the moment. My personal preference would be to scrap the SL and maintain the FBL & FCL.
Not really as the killer works wonders for those who excel in it, the other game types have a more broader spectrum of players. 9us is down to luck and little skill, 8us and 8uk require more but these are the 3 main game types which players learn and acquire before joining a clan surely?
Killer worked best in the FBL, SL should be kind of like the Champions League (for the players who can hit runout after runout etc, event based). Supposed that being said, keep all 3 leagues.
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14:19 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Scrap all leagues and create one new league with 7 man teams in a champions League format involving 4 team groups and knockout stages. Fast seasons increase new player turnover while decreasing long periods of inactivity. More teams because of smaller number of players in teams creates more competition making it hard for one team to dominate season after season. First season would probably have one outright leading team but second seasons teams can only have 2 players maximum that finished in the top 20 for golden cue.
14:30 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Can't we just have that as well?? lol
I think the FCL is unscrappable Sam. It's been the most prestigious league for years, and it's pretty much flawless in format, in my opinion.
Scrap all leagues and create one new league with 7 man teams in a champions League format involving 4 team groups and knockout stages. Fast seasons increase new player turnover while decreasing long periods of inactivity. More teams because of smaller number of players in teams creates more competition making it hard for one team to dominate season after season. First season would probably have one outright leading team but second seasons teams can only have 2 players maximum that finished in the top 20 for golden cue.
Can't we just have that as well?? lol
I think the FCL is unscrappable Sam. It's been the most prestigious league for years, and it's pretty much flawless in format, in my opinion.
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14:48 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
The FCL is the ONLY league teams take seriously, the SL is different as it actually rewards an achievement (event). The FBL (Funkypool Boring League) is exactly that, it's been on its demise for a while now. Next format will be 3 frames then hopefully none. 8 were fine, 6 is a joke as it doesn't give any player time to actually settle in to a rhythm or display a players true ability. You go 4-0 down then you may as well not bother. With 8, you had a little longer, the match actually took longer than it did to arrange the thing lol.
The FCL is the better league and will/should remain here a lot longer than any other nambi-pambi league.
The FCL is the better league and will/should remain here a lot longer than any other nambi-pambi league.
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15:27 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Fair enough, i agree with the above that the FCL is the primary league of the site and can therefore understand that it cant really be scrapped. I just think we need something different, all the leagues are the same, one big table, with the same teams up top. The above idea would be quicker league turnover, more free switching between teams because of the smaller teams, and the rule regarding no more than 2 players from Golden Cue of previous season. Perhaps alike to the Super Cup at the end of the Football season have the winners of the FCL and the winners of the CL format league play each other in a multiple format shootout!
15:32 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Like this
Scrap all leagues and create one new league with 7 man teams in a champions League format involving 4 team groups and knockout stages. Fast seasons increase new player turnover while decreasing long periods of inactivity. More teams because of smaller number of players in teams creates more competition making it hard for one team to dominate season after season. First season would probably have one outright leading team but second seasons teams can only have 2 players maximum that finished in the top 20 for golden cue.
Like this
15:57 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Yeah, it would be cool. As long as there was the FCL too! :)
Fair enough, i agree with the above that the FCL is the primary league of the site and can therefore understand that it cant really be scrapped. I just think we need something different, all the leagues are the same, one big table, with the same teams up top. The above idea would be quicker league turnover, more free switching between teams because of the smaller teams, and the rule regarding no more than 2 players from Golden Cue of previous season. Perhaps alike to the Super Cup at the end of the Football season have the winners of the FCL and the winners of the CL format league play each other in a multiple format shootout!
Yeah, it would be cool. As long as there was the FCL too! :)
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16:28 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Not really as the killer works wonders for those who excel in it, the other game types have a more broader spectrum of players. 9us is down to luck and little skill, 8us and 8uk require more but these are the 3 main game types which players learn and acquire before joining a clan surely?
Killer worked best in the FBL, SL should be kind of like the Champions League (for the players who can hit runout after runout etc, event based). Supposed that being said, keep all 3 leagues. (from a post from before I made)
I like the idea of a Champions League style competition but should be deciphered by who finishes in what position on the league. There could also be like a subsidiary cup (league) for those who don't finish in the Top 5 or 6, giving EVERYONE something to play for.
Even tweak the game formats, 1 frame or 2 frames of each including arcades, just widens the spectrum for ALL.
Killer worked best in the FBL, SL should be kind of like the Champions League (for the players who can hit runout after runout etc, event based). Supposed that being said, keep all 3 leagues. (from a post from before I made)
I like the idea of a Champions League style competition but should be deciphered by who finishes in what position on the league. There could also be like a subsidiary cup (league) for those who don't finish in the Top 5 or 6, giving EVERYONE something to play for.
Even tweak the game formats, 1 frame or 2 frames of each including arcades, just widens the spectrum for ALL.
16:49 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
we already have the cup, which is same as a Champions League format. So if u like that format more, put it as the main aim for the team
Scrap all leagues and create one new league with 7 man teams in a champions League format involving 4 team groups and knockout stages. Fast seasons increase new player turnover while decreasing long periods of inactivity. More teams because of smaller number of players in teams creates more competition making it hard for one team to dominate season after season. First season would probably have one outright leading team but second seasons teams can only have 2 players maximum that finished in the top 20 for golden cue.
we already have the cup, which is same as a Champions League format. So if u like that format more, put it as the main aim for the team
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16:59 Thu 20 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
we already have the cup, which is same as a Champions League format. So if u like that format more, put it as the main aim for the team
this is more about smaller teams and quicker league, with more fairness in the spread of quality players across multiple teams The actual format doesn't bother me, haha
Scrap all leagues and create one new league with 7 man teams in a champions League format involving 4 team groups and knockout stages. Fast seasons increase new player turnover while decreasing long periods of inactivity. More teams because of smaller number of players in teams creates more competition making it hard for one team to dominate season after season. First season would probably have one outright leading team but second seasons teams can only have 2 players maximum that finished in the top 20 for golden cue.
we already have the cup, which is same as a Champions League format. So if u like that format more, put it as the main aim for the team
this is more about smaller teams and quicker league, with more fairness in the spread of quality players across multiple teams The actual format doesn't bother me, haha
00:00 Fri 21 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Sounds good but like some have said to scrap the FCL probably wont happen as it is a step too far for most.
Another suggestion would be to cut FCL to 4 games per fixture and have teams of 8 players which should mean almost twice as much teams. You could then do mini leagues and top 2, 3 or 4 qualify etc depending on league size then knockout. With only 4 games it means that you could easily get more shock results as top players would probably be spread across a number of the teams. No need for bonuses as each clan would get 2 points for a win in the leagues and then it would be knockout. Also means defaults would be easier as it would only affect the winner of a fixture and not distort leagues with high points or low point awards.
If there is a desire for more than one league and there is plenty who like the every frame to count format beenjammin to name one. I have liked the cup this season with longer formats of players favourite type. So why not make the second league FBL style except play 12 racks of each and every frame counts, top scoring team wins the league. 1 player 12 x US8, 1 player 12 x US9, 1 player 12 x UK8 and then one player plays mixed 4 racks of each. Again it is only 4 games in the fixture with teams of 8. You could also add in killer if everyone was wanting it but i would think 2 v 2 would be ample to make it easier to sort.
I know this is way different from what we have but i think more and more are saying that clan leagues are stale and boring so maybe it is time for some large changes to spice them up.
Scrap all leagues and create one new league with 7 man teams in a champions League format involving 4 team groups and knockout stages. Fast seasons increase new player turnover while decreasing long periods of inactivity. More teams because of smaller number of players in teams creates more competition making it hard for one team to dominate season after season. First season would probably have one outright leading team but second seasons teams can only have 2 players maximum that finished in the top 20 for golden cue.
Sounds good but like some have said to scrap the FCL probably wont happen as it is a step too far for most.
Another suggestion would be to cut FCL to 4 games per fixture and have teams of 8 players which should mean almost twice as much teams. You could then do mini leagues and top 2, 3 or 4 qualify etc depending on league size then knockout. With only 4 games it means that you could easily get more shock results as top players would probably be spread across a number of the teams. No need for bonuses as each clan would get 2 points for a win in the leagues and then it would be knockout. Also means defaults would be easier as it would only affect the winner of a fixture and not distort leagues with high points or low point awards.
If there is a desire for more than one league and there is plenty who like the every frame to count format beenjammin to name one. I have liked the cup this season with longer formats of players favourite type. So why not make the second league FBL style except play 12 racks of each and every frame counts, top scoring team wins the league. 1 player 12 x US8, 1 player 12 x US9, 1 player 12 x UK8 and then one player plays mixed 4 racks of each. Again it is only 4 games in the fixture with teams of 8. You could also add in killer if everyone was wanting it but i would think 2 v 2 would be ample to make it easier to sort.
I know this is way different from what we have but i think more and more are saying that clan leagues are stale and boring so maybe it is time for some large changes to spice them up.
00:11 Fri 21 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
i say keep FCL and FBL and make 2 cups for both . scrap SL
23:23 Fri 21 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Not really changing anything huts, I still think we need some bigger changes to breathe some life into the clan leagues.
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