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17:40 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
chris said:
ipotalot said:
It isn't a part judgement of a teams reliability. Players come and go we're not going to judge every signing individually it's the clan's ability to be reliable that is being judged.


But it has already been said before that part of the judgement is new signings. Again where is the logic in being able to judge people that cant play when you could judge people that can play?

Forget anything else bringing your focus to just one or two clans and stick to that point in view of the situation as a whole.


Just going round and round in circles.
My point of view as a whole is that a well run clan should be able to get the friendlies done very easily with the squad sizes and rules as they are.
If a clan can't complete the friendlies(unless it's the opposition's fault) then it's better not to have them in the league.
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17:40 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
rick...the point of avin 15 or 16 is to decrease defaults...it hasnt decreased defaults...theres my points...defaults still at large, unhappy players not gettin games and players are leavin the site, not just leavin clans
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17:46 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
If a clan can't complete the friendlies(unless it's the opposition's fault) then it's better not to have them in the league.


Nothing wrong with that at all in theory. However you like others want to see a picture without putting as many jigsaw pieces into the puzzle as you possibly can to make sure you are seeing the right picture.

And that is not in respect of Underdogs or anyone else this season or any other season in future.
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17:51 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
antione08 said:
rick...the point of avin 15 or 16 is to decrease defaults...it hasnt decreased defaults...theres my points...defaults still at large, unhappy players not gettin games and players are leavin the site, not just leavin clans

i wouldn't change it this season unless Jay really feels strongly about this, monitor the defaults this season VERY carefully and if no improvement decrease the size to 14 (not 16 to 12 as its hasty). and put boundaries and possibly punishments in place.

i think chris's Super league is a great idea as its 5 v 5 and you can use 16 players however if you go down that road, decrease the clan league from 8 v 8 to 6 v 6 and make the size 10 or 12 players and cup would be 5 v 5. and this is purely an idea and nothing more so no criticism please.

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17:55 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
antione08 said:
rick...the point of avin 15 or 16 is to decrease defaults...it hasnt decreased defaults...theres my points...defaults still at large, unhappy players not gettin games and players are leavin the site, not just leavin clans

i wouldn't change it this season unless Jay really feels strongly about this, monitor the defaults this season VERY carefully and if no improvement decrease the size to 14 (not 16 to 12 as its hasty). and put boundaries and possibly punishments in place.

i think chris's Super league is a great idea as its 5 v 5 and you can use 16 players however if you go down that road, decrease the clan league from 8 v 8 to 6 v 6 and make the size 10 or 12 players and cup would be 5 v 5. and this is purely an idea and nothing more so no criticism please.



i like the idea of decreased fixtures aswel as decreasin clan size

but obviously, as u said, see how this season goes and then make changes if its needed..

just like any other changes at the moment, trialed and tested and now we are tryin to come up with a solution instead of leavin a problem to be kept as a problem

by the way, ^^^ wasnt aimed at u dgen
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17:58 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
well ant you are a problem, moving slow in your old age!

what better way to sort a problem than eliminating it

EN GARDE!!!

kidding mate
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18:00 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
if only we could just eliminate "problems" such as me lmao...site would be a better place, no?!
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18:06 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
16 players is a maximum nothing wrong with people having 1 FCL 1 FBL per fortnight and nothing at all wrong with the format of 8 v 8.
Let's not spoil it for the clans that are run properly because the ones that aren't complain.
chris-decision will be made by league runners anyway, as I said before I hope underdogs do get their games played and make it in as I like the philosophy there.
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18:59 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Really no need for this, will just cause more arguments.

Edited by forum moderator ab_rfc, at 17:07 Fri 24/02/12 (GMT)
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19:11 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
antione08 said:
craig i never said u was talkin about me or my previous clan, hmmmmm, its all in ur head

snooker squad and mvp had OTT defaults, lookin at defaults page, they didnt lose many, so not there fault...and even if it was, 1 or 2 clans with an OTT default record doesnt mean we av default issues, maybe clans or players issues is actually the reason....

i still dont see how we have a default issue....

I don't know where you got your info but MVP only had 3 defaults caused by opponents leaving fixtures, you must have looked at the wrong site lol
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19:18 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Why have you edited my post? it's a question how did it come about?
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19:20 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
I see some people having a go about the clan size, answer this lol, if a clan has 16 players and loads of defaults do you say 16 players aint working or do you take a good look at the clan / captain and wonder why have they got so many defaults when they have 8 subs ?.

I know my answer and I don't blame the clan size.
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19:26 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
antione08 said:
craig i never said u was talkin about me or my previous clan, hmmmmm, its all in ur head

snooker squad and mvp had OTT defaults, lookin at defaults page, they didnt lose many, so not there fault...and even if it was, 1 or 2 clans with an OTT default record doesnt mean we av default issues, maybe clans or players issues is actually the reason....

i still dont see how we have a default issue....

I don't know where you got your info but MVP only had 3 defaults caused by opponents leaving fixtures, you must have looked at the wrong site lol


i had said it they werent yours or snooker squads fault tho lol,

nah mate, mvp had more than 3 defaults, im sure they did, nevertheless, werent ur fault.

n i aint slatin clan size, im sayin that the reason for clan sizes bein 15/16 was to reduce defaults, they havent reduced defaults, so no point in keep increasin clan sizes, or even havin so many in each clan

i do however agree with players/captains bein a problem concernin defaults
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19:27 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
tinie said:
Why have you edited my post? it's a question how did it come about?

If you want an answer to your question message Jay and I'm sure if he wants to answer he'll get back to you, you've known for long enough Jay was going to be running the league, even when you were his team mate, really no need to post it on here now and possibly cause an argument.
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19:28 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
antione08 said:
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antione08 said:
craig i never said u was talkin about me or my previous clan, hmmmmm, its all in ur head

snooker squad and mvp had OTT defaults, lookin at defaults page, they didnt lose many, so not there fault...and even if it was, 1 or 2 clans with an OTT default record doesnt mean we av default issues, maybe clans or players issues is actually the reason....

i still dont see how we have a default issue....

I don't know where you got your info but MVP only had 3 defaults caused by opponents leaving fixtures, you must have looked at the wrong site lol


i had said it they werent yours or snooker squads fault tho lol,

nah mate, mvp had more than 3 defaults, im sure they did, nevertheless, werent ur fault.

n i aint slatin clan size, im sayin that the reason for clan sizes bein 15/16 was to reduce defaults, they havent reduced defaults, so no point in keep increasin clan sizes, or even havin so many in each clan

i do however agree with players/captains bein a problem concernin defaults

check your facts, we only had 3
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19:29 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
i dont av the website, comp lost everythin, or id check...im sure mvp and snooker had more than that, quite a few more, unless they dropped down due to a clan foldin lol im not sure
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19:32 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
snooker squad had 20 and MVP had 3, joint best with TPA in Div 2, and no clans folded in Div 2, a good reliable bunch compared to Div 1 lol.
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19:32 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
mvp only had 3 or 4, Snooker had 20, MVPs came about as opponents got scared of playing, Snooker was a variety of different reasons
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19:35 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
lmao dont start me on that convo, id hate to have to kick ur backside

if im wrong about ur number of defaults, then i apologise, i wouldnt av brought mvp into it if i didnt think i was right about it, i wont even check, it dont make a difference now, was just gettin my point across
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19:39 Fri 24 Feb 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
haha you were wrong lol
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