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23:15 Tue 10 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I actually think with the short format and small teams it would be a lot better with no bonus points at all for any events and just let the frames decide. Judging by how close the 5 games have been and the killer scoring it looks like killer will decide a lot of fixtures not sure if that is a good thing or not.

Why not just score killer 3 for 1st, 2 for 2nd and 1 for 3rd, yes it means you can get a 3-3 draw but you can also win 5-1 or 4-2 which is more realistic in scoring terms than the 10-3 that can be scored on the current format.

Edited at 20:19 Tue 10/09/13 (BST)
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23:16 Tue 10 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Super League IV - Trial Match

Uprising (25) v (26) Rest of the World

angry_bacon 8 v 6 fuunky
erigert 6 v 6 clarebye
2andygorams 6 v 6 bluenose1872
cgibson92 5 v 8 horse10000
pirate_steve v scott7a

4 racks of 8US, 9US and 8UK. Bonus points for any Run Out, GB, 7 Balling or 3 Fouling achieved.


2 games of Killer (2 vs 2) also required from the players on either side. Killer scoring is 1st - 6 Pts, 2nd - 4 Pts, 3rd - 2 Pts and 4th - 1 Pt. No player can play in both Killer games.
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23:17 Tue 10 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Your Clan vs Your Clan

Switch all best players into one clan and crap players in another therefore best players will win 9 times out of 10. then next fixture they even it out again.

should be under normal rules where quarantine comes into it plus not switching me from team A to Team B each fixture.
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23:23 Tue 10 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Your Clan vs Your Clan

Switch all best players into one clan and crap players in another therefore best players will win 9 times out of 10. then next fixture they even it out again.

should be under normal rules where quarantine comes into it plus not switching me from team A to Team B each fixture.


This would be the captains choice and it is up to him how he runs his clan so there is no problem with it. If chris does 2 leagues you would not meet until the knockouts anyway. Surely the ultimate captaining skill is to get two teams in and win both leagues and play each other in the final. Or you can play your best players in one and your poorer players in the other, again it is a captains choice what he does. He has far more input in this format in any other and in my opinion is a good thing.
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23:39 Tue 10 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
okay for example so say Seb tells me to take a dive in our clan match and i pot 6 blacks purposely and lose 6-0, what are you going to do about that?

might work if chris does 2 groups but hope people prove me wrong here.
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23:53 Tue 10 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
don't remove events, its what makes this unique and different from the other leagues, if you do it will be the same as the other leagues.
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00:17 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Events wont be removed - even if they were only used to decide an Individual Champion.

I have more concerns with the Killer games actually getting played than I have with the scoring.
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00:24 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
IF 2 sides are favoured then we (Phoenix Storm) will enter 2, I won't call them A & B they will have their own names.
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00:26 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Super League IV

Please can clans wishing to take part this season post here - also indicating how many teams they are entering.

The number of entrants will decide the structure of the competition.

1. Uprising A
2. Uprising B
3. Snooker Squad
4. Phoenix Storm (Team name TBC)
5. Phoenix Storm (Team name TBC)

Regarding the two teams issue, I have thought about it and decided to go with the original plan.

As far as the League is concerned A & B teams are interchangeable however no one player can play in both the A & B teams during the same fixture period. This gives Captains freedom to decide tactics. They can stick with two even teams, favour one team over the other or tactically switch players around to try and get both teams through at the expense of others.

Assuming there are sufficient numbers there will be two groups from which teams will compete to qualify for the play-offs. Where clans have an A & B team entered, one will be drawn in each group.

Hopefully this will work and maybe bring some spice into the competition too. It will then be reviewed at the end of the season.
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00:36 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
pirate_steve 5 - 11 scott7a

8US 4 - 1 scott (7 balling for him)
9BALL 4 - 1 scott (run-out for him)
8UK - 8UK 3 - 3 (run-out for me, 7 balling for him)

Only comment I have on the format is I don't like there being the same reward for a 7 balling & a run-out. There's a difference in winning the game in one visit & winning the game with a seven balling (forgetting the fact that you can run-out and seven ball somebody).

I think that will fabricate a lot of scorelines with this system.
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00:37 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
scott vs pirate_steve

8us 3-1 (7 ball for me)
9us 3-1 (run out for me)
8uk 2-2 (7 ball for me) (run out for steve )

11-5.
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00:42 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
how about runout is 2 points, everything else is 1 point?
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00:43 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
frames worth 2 points too?
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00:46 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
how about runout is 2 points, everything else is 1 point?


If Events were only used to decide the Individual Champion then I could work out a weighted scoring system.

If they stay as bonus point scorers in the clan fixtures they would definitely remain at one point.

Choices remain the same.

1) No Bonus Points (in the clan fixtures)
2) Run Outs only
3) Run Outs & GBs only
4) Everything (ROs, GBs, 7Bs and 3Fs)
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00:48 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I say number 2) or number 3) ..
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00:50 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Events wont be removed - even if they were only used to decide an Individual Champion.

I have more concerns with the Killer games actually getting played than I have with the scoring.


I think this is the way to go, remove them and use them as an individual thing.
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00:51 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I don't see a problem getting killer games played but i still think scoring for them is wrong as per my post above.
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01:01 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Number 4 just doesn't make sense, I would vote for 3
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01:14 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
3 too
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01:16 Wed 11 Sep 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I don't agree with two teams now, clans are going to match fix left, right and center which i don't see the fun in.


How can you match fix, it is just utilising the players in your clan in whatever way you want, is that not a good thing as it would require skill from a captaining point of view?

I have to agree with James, I think this should only be allowed if all clans enter 2 teams, any clan entering one team is wasting their time, total disadvantage from the start.
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