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17:34 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Whats the reasoning behind it being increased by 1 though mate?

sorry if its already been discussed, i havent got a lifetime to read half of these discussions lol
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17:36 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
8 games per fixture 2 fixtures at a time = 16 games... 16 players...potentially a chance to give everyone 1 game
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17:39 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
It was discussed antione virtually everyone was against it being increased but horse wanted it and they do it on snooker so that's that really.
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17:39 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Thats fair enough then, but i for one have trouble giving all 15 a game, specially when say only 12 or 13 are regularly online, gettin 16 reliable players is gonna be tough...

tbf i think if clan sizes are gonna be increasing, eventually, so will the number of fixtures per set, then someone will complain bout clan size again, and the ball will keep rolling

can i ask whats wrong with the 15 player clan size? i understand the 16 players, 16 games thing, but whats wrong with 15? defaults again?
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17:40 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Jem answered that . Pretty much what she said mate.

Sorry but i have a lot of work to do as i need to sort out the last set of fixtures for the league. If i don't talk as much then you know why. Also trying to play a bit in game to.

As for the cup suggestion. Can i please ask for people to discuss this instead of ignoring my post about it. Some people have answered it. But if it is not made clear to me by many of you then i may have to take it to a vote! or might just go along with it as i think it is a decent idea.
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17:41 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
It was discussed antione virtually everyone was against it being increased but horse wanted it and they do it on snooker so that's that really.


ahh i must have missed it lol, half the stuff thats suggested dont get thought through right, and its hard to keep up with whats bein suggested, can go back page after page after page some days on the earliest post will still be 2 hrs ago lol, so i cant be bothered keep lookin through just to find a well planned suggestion
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17:41 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Cant you make clans of 20 in and then split them into A and B teams? so gives captains a chance to bring people through and promote them to the A team the following season if there good enough? Would decrease the amount of clans being made up as they wouldn't fill 20 people.

For example

Div 1

Shooters A vs Team Angry A

Div 2

Shooter B vs Team Angry B


Have no promotions and relegations and just have same teams in each league, but give teams a chance to have a B team to keep players who want to play happy.
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17:42 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
sometimes captains just need a that 1 extra player to be able to sub and avoid defaults. increasing it too much would lead to larger fixtures etc but adding 1 just adds that tiny bit of extra security for fixtures.
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17:42 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
antione08 said:
tbf i think if clan sizes are gonna be increasing, eventually, so will the number of fixtures per set, then someone will complain bout clan size again, and the ball will keep rolling


Going by what i have seen around the forums about new teams and some clans maybe folding there looks like there might be an extra fixture set or two next season, that is a maybe though as pre season is a while away This would help FCL and FBL kind of run and finish at the same time, if the new teams decided not to play in the FBL.
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17:42 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
so why don't you just make it one great big league that way every body be happy lol
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17:43 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
bluenose1872 said:
Jem answered that . Pretty much what she said mate.

Sorry but i have a lot of work to do as i need to sort out the last set of fixtures for the league. If i don't talk as much then you know why. Also trying to play a bit in game to.

As for the cup suggestion. Can i please ask for people to discuss this instead of ignoring my post about it. Some people have answered it. But if it is not made clear to me by many of you then i may have to take it to a vote! or might just go along with it as i think it is a decent idea.


Whats the cup suggestion? lol, if its about the 5v5, 7v7 and 8v8 or what ever it is...couldnt see a fault with it bein all 5v5, but then again, i aint seen much go wrong with the format its currently got...also think 5frames of each type should stay in cup and league...definitely league, cup maybe a change, but not 100% on that one personally
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17:44 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Agreed Big_mouse, would stop BIG teams folding them coming back and smashing div 2
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diamond_jem said:
sometimes captains just need a that 1 extra player to be able to sub and avoid defaults. increasing it too much would lead to larger fixtures etc but adding 1 just adds that tiny bit of extra security for fixtures.


completely agree with the reasonings here Jem...until that 1 extra player cant get online and then we'll be back in the same situation, but yeah i can see where your coming from
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17:45 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Jon - we could do that but then people would start moaning as "the bigger clans" have all the best players or what not.

I really don't see why the increase should be 20. I made a decision to put it to 16 and im going to stick to that.
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17:46 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Think most players in our clan would want 2 FCL games a fortnight and 2 FBL if they could. 15 is overkill anyway.
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big_mouse said:
so why don't you just make it one great big league that way every body be happy lol


ive often wondered this myself, but ive read somewhere before that 1 big league would cause the "weaker teams" to have nothing to fight for and players will get restless...

this has been proven a few times already this season with players who have been playing against MVP leavin/deactivating or what ever
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17:47 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
wonderman said:
Agreed Big_mouse, would stop BIG teams folding them coming back and smashing div 2


So the smaller teams would then get "smashed" by most of the division one sides? How is that fairer than it is now.
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bluenose1872 said:
Jon - we could do that but then people would start moaning as "the bigger clans" have all the best players or what not.


But don't the bigger clans have the better players anyways?

I'm just saying i would like to see A and B teams so gives captains a chance to play the players who currently aint being involved
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17:50 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think 16 was the right choice Jay, we do not want to start increasing clans too much, that could lead to problems.

Ant, there will always be problems with players not being online, unfortunately it happens to the best clans but i think having 1 additional member to the clan could be a real help if you picked a good reliable player.
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17:50 Wed 4 Jan 12 (GMT)  [Link]  
Ant,

The cup team format this season is:

5 v 5 (Until Semi Final)
7 v7 (Semi)
9 v 9 (Final)

Many are liking this current set up, but now want to decrease the frames in the cup from 15 to 9.
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