If it does, revert back to the normal ways. Aka, the staff want it, the staff will have it.

Exactly - and highlighting why it works on that basis was part of setting out the pros and cons in a balanced way

Changing match formats doesn't need a poll - certainly not at this stage if ever. For a start it would need the pros for keeping the 15 game format to be given so that anyone interested could consider the merits of the two choices.

i got made like that as the majority wanted it, maybe if this if popular the cup could be 7 v 7 in future instead of the micky mouse cup

OK Chris, fair point what are your pro's and con's?

No matter the pro's and con's i am still going to be against the idea of having the league format changed, the cup i can understand though. I also think the 5 v 5 and so on in the cup is good and should not be changed again (especially since this is its first season in effect and its going rather well.)

it starts of 5 vs 5 why change it it should kept 5 vs 5 all the though the cup if not start with 8 vs 8 like the league games when 5 vs 5 you pick your best players that are on from
when you up players it gives the lower teams no change

It got changed because to be honest it was rather boring and the cup was beginning to look useless. No has complained about the increase in the cup change, it has been around for the whole season now.

No one is questioning the number of matches in the cup from what I can see.

I have set out the pros for the 9 frame format - just needs someone to set out the pros for the 15 frame format rather than saying 'keep it', 'i like it', 'its always been that way' (when it hasnt).

Alternatively decide now that you want to keep it the same with no further discussion and thats it - end of!! No point discussing any issue when it is decided they will not change at this time no matter what. Go to the next subject and then we're getting somewhere.

I can't be bothered sitting and writing out the pro's to the 15 frames though! . If someone else does want to then feel free, i just know personally i like it. Others have there own opinion.

Still love the cup idea

Thats because its what we play and what we are used to. Had we been used to playing 9 frame games and someone put forward the idea to change it to 15 frames most would be in the same position

But if that had been the case I am not sure exactly what would be the benefits of suggesting switching from 9 to 15 and whether the pros would outweigh the cons.

But anyway stick with the 15 frames for the league and just keep 9 on the backburner as a possibilty for the future. If its trialled elsewhere then all well and good.

could trial it in the cup, if its successful in the cup then possibly discuss it for the following season to change league to 9 frames if it doesn't work out then possibly change cup back to 15 frames.

think thats best way to go about it

Exactly what i was thinking.

Dont know if i should just say that is happening or not. Think im going to wait and see what others say about it.

Topic:

Should the clan cup frames be decreased to 9 frames (3 frames of the main types) and be trial runned in the next season?

Im going yeah on this as i like the idea.

there is no cons to the league formatt or cup

just leave it alone

if you want a novice league then introduce one

that will be corrupted by banned users straight away also

if teams want to win the league or the cup..... they have to improve as in any walk of life.. stop twisting about the top teams doing well

MVP and snooker squad are being talked about alot ,,,,, forgive me are they not both knew teams in the second division that are doing really well

congradulations and next year if they are a class above everything in the first division then teams will have to adapt also...again thats life

id like to see teams having 20 players and a reserve team playing say maybe 9 frames and made up of newbies would make it interesting also would you play a banned user hmmmm

if players figure in the main fixture they cannot play in the reserve league

just an idea

chris will you stop with the stupid ideas!! Cons for reducing the number of games...
IT'S COMPETITIVE THE BEST PLAYER IS SUPPOSED TO WIN!!!
As you said over 15 frames the best player will win and less flukes will happen, that's what we want.
There is a way for worse players to improve, play the best players over 15 frames.

league yes but cup should have an unpredictability feel to it which it doesn't have, shortening cup to 9 frames should accomplish this just like playing each game type in 1 frame on snooker

Just a quick question, incase im confused..Craig, are you seriously suggesting clans havin 20 players?

following on from ant... AND a reserve team of 9?

dreamland

lmao Lee - I take on board your constructive comments.

If the best player is supposed to win lets make it 15 frames of each or 115 frames of each.

The idea is the best player is supposed to win - what is wrong with letting them work a little bit harder for it rather than making it in their favour?

Besides there are far more pros and cons that could be considered - but clearly if you want to ignore them then fine. Fortunately others do consider them and make considered judgements.



Edited at 16:47 Wed 04/01/12 (GMT)

That's what the random draws and 1 march winner takes all system sorts out. You still want the best players on the day to win matches.
People enjoy playing frames too. Already hardly any players get to play in the cup now you want to chop the games for those that do.

Clan size for next season has been increased by one. From 15 to 16 it won't be increased by any more.