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17:20 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
Any arguments will just be in clan and its a fact of life those arguments will go on no matter what.
Take away the permissions aspect and the arguments begin with the rules, the exceptions, the case by case rulings made and thats in addition to taking away the fundimental competetiveness of the league.
Its like saying Man City are top of the table however half their team are wanted by Man Utd. The players have the right to transfer to Utd even though they are under contract to City? Of course not. City have the right to keep them or if they wanted rid then they might agree to let them go to West Ham.
Could pull a Tevez lol.
We are now signing contracts for the season on an online pool game, does that mean signing on fees as i have not budgeted for this next season with MVP
Oh dear MVP will go into administration, points deducted and if Snooker Squad has a bigger bank balance they will win the league and poach all our players, who said online pool is for fun this is serious stuff!!!
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chris said:
horse10000 said:
I think if we go for this one transfer with captains permission we are creating a rule that will not solve the problem and lead to arguments.
Any arguments will just be in clan and its a fact of life those arguments will go on no matter what.
Take away the permissions aspect and the arguments begin with the rules, the exceptions, the case by case rulings made and thats in addition to taking away the fundimental competetiveness of the league.
Its like saying Man City are top of the table however half their team are wanted by Man Utd. The players have the right to transfer to Utd even though they are under contract to City? Of course not. City have the right to keep them or if they wanted rid then they might agree to let them go to West Ham.
Could pull a Tevez lol.
We are now signing contracts for the season on an online pool game, does that mean signing on fees as i have not budgeted for this next season with MVP
Oh dear MVP will go into administration, points deducted and if Snooker Squad has a bigger bank balance they will win the league and poach all our players, who said online pool is for fun this is serious stuff!!!
17:21 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
haha
about the divisions, snooker normally has about 6 clans, possibly put 2 divisions if we get 8 or more (preferably 10) but on snooker we only play each clan once not twice but with the Plate involved with the Cup its almost the same length as Pool
about the divisions, snooker normally has about 6 clans, possibly put 2 divisions if we get 8 or more (preferably 10) but on snooker we only play each clan once not twice but with the Plate involved with the Cup its almost the same length as Pool
17:22 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
good jem now we can move on next topic
i dont know how many pages on this rule,,, but how many players has this happened to or is going to happen to
id rather now move onto preventing defaults pleaseeeeeee
and default points or whatever we are calling them ... completion points
or have i missed the boat here
diamond_jem said:
The idea has been voted on and will remain at 1 transfer per season with captains permission, this was the majority vote and will not be changed - we only need ideas on potential limitations
good jem now we can move on next topic
i dont know how many pages on this rule,,, but how many players has this happened to or is going to happen to
id rather now move onto preventing defaults pleaseeeeeee
and default points or whatever we are calling them ... completion points
or have i missed the boat here
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17:25 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
I know what youre saying Keith (and I knew the contracts comment was coming!! lol) but its better to have rules that leave no room for different interpretations rather than simply hope a situation doesnt arise which makes a farce of the league and invites argument.
17:26 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
completion bonus is gone mate, too much hassle (next season), but one thing we are lacking in the defaults department is what jan used which is a activity tracker, when we had that defaults was so easy to predict but nowadays its purely guesswork (turned out quite well but not really security) but at the same time jan used an electronic website which means for the activity tracker to work you would need these things.
- Linux
- Good Internet Connection
- Leave Computer on 24/7
I did ask jan a while ago if he could set this up for us and said yes long as there is a volunteer but at the same time after the last few seasons can we trust this person not to leave when things don't go their way? etc
- Linux
- Good Internet Connection
- Leave Computer on 24/7
I did ask jan a while ago if he could set this up for us and said yes long as there is a volunteer but at the same time after the last few seasons can we trust this person not to leave when things don't go their way? etc
17:28 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
Yes i agree totally that is why each player being allowed one transfer with certain restrictions is straightforward and stops a lot of the other if, buts and maybes scenarios. With the rule as it is we have just added more of these which i think is a step backwards rather than forwards.
chris said:
I know what youre saying Keith (and I knew the contracts comment was coming!! lol) but its better to have rules that leave no room for different interpretations rather than simply hope a situation doesnt arise which makes a farce of the league and invites argument.
Yes i agree totally that is why each player being allowed one transfer with certain restrictions is straightforward and stops a lot of the other if, buts and maybes scenarios. With the rule as it is we have just added more of these which i think is a step backwards rather than forwards.
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17:32 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
Actually think it is less - the Captain/Team allows a transfer of a player somewhere or they dont - no further argument with the rules. Its as black and white as it can be.
Unless your 'certain restrictions' are as black and white of course.
Unless your 'certain restrictions' are as black and white of course.
17:35 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
also about defaults one thing i have found to be a problem is the points to work with when doing defaults, it is currently 15 points and 15 points for guesswork defaults can cause a problem.
On snooker we use 6 points maximum for defaults (5 if cup) so becomes much easier to predict.
not asking to change the format etc as its been around since ancient times but something to think about
On snooker we use 6 points maximum for defaults (5 if cup) so becomes much easier to predict.
not asking to change the format etc as its been around since ancient times but something to think about
17:35 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
if this has now gone what are we going to do regarding tactical play in leaving fixtures to be played on the last saturday and sunday forcing other less vocal clans to do subs and put lesser players into games to suite the more vocal ones
this does happen ... dgen you said youd watch for this and its still happening
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completion bonus is gone mate, too much hassle (next season), but one thing we are lacking in the defaults department is what jan used which is a activity tracker, when we had that defaults was so easy to predict but nowadays its purely guesswork (turned out quite well but not really security) but at the same time jan used an electronic website which means for the activity tracker to work you would need these things.
- Linux
- Good Internet Connection
- Leave Computer on 24/7
I did ask jan a while ago if he could set this up for us and said yes long as there is a volunteer but at the same time after the last few seasons can we trust this person not to leave when things don't go their way? etc
- Linux
- Good Internet Connection
- Leave Computer on 24/7
I did ask jan a while ago if he could set this up for us and said yes long as there is a volunteer but at the same time after the last few seasons can we trust this person not to leave when things don't go their way? etc
if this has now gone what are we going to do regarding tactical play in leaving fixtures to be played on the last saturday and sunday forcing other less vocal clans to do subs and put lesser players into games to suite the more vocal ones
this does happen ... dgen you said youd watch for this and its still happening
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17:35 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
Bang on!
chris said:
Actually think it is less - the Captain/Team allows a transfer of a player somewhere or they dont - no further argument with the rules. Its as black and white as it can be.
Bang on!
17:37 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
if this has now gone what are we going to do regarding tactical play in leaving fixtures to be played on the last saturday and sunday forcing other less vocal clans to do subs and put lesser players into games to suite the more vocal ones
this does happen ... dgen you said youd watch for this and its still happening
they would lose at defaults, also sorry about not watching but since i said that i have had a lot of updating to do. but i do think it is a problem in the long run.
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dgeneratio said:
completion bonus is gone mate, too much hassle (next season), but one thing we are lacking in the defaults department is what jan used which is a activity tracker, when we had that defaults was so easy to predict but nowadays its purely guesswork (turned out quite well but not really security) but at the same time jan used an electronic website which means for the activity tracker to work you would need these things.
- Linux
- Good Internet Connection
- Leave Computer on 24/7
I did ask jan a while ago if he could set this up for us and said yes long as there is a volunteer but at the same time after the last few seasons can we trust this person not to leave when things don't go their way? etc
- Linux
- Good Internet Connection
- Leave Computer on 24/7
I did ask jan a while ago if he could set this up for us and said yes long as there is a volunteer but at the same time after the last few seasons can we trust this person not to leave when things don't go their way? etc
if this has now gone what are we going to do regarding tactical play in leaving fixtures to be played on the last saturday and sunday forcing other less vocal clans to do subs and put lesser players into games to suite the more vocal ones
this does happen ... dgen you said youd watch for this and its still happening
they would lose at defaults, also sorry about not watching but since i said that i have had a lot of updating to do. but i do think it is a problem in the long run.
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17:37 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
I agree, if the captain wont release the player, as long as he is treating the player fairly, the player must stay!
Need to watch out for captains bullying other captains into releasing players though
Need to watch out for captains bullying other captains into releasing players though
17:39 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
james no problem dont worry season is nearly over cheers all the same
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17:39 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
Exactly! If a captain has said no, then it is not down to another captain to question that decision, if the player REALLY feels they should be allowed to be released they can talk to a League Runner.
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I agree, if the captain wont release the player, as long as he is treating the player fairly, the player must stay!
Need to watch out for captains bullying other captains into releasing players though
Need to watch out for captains bullying other captains into releasing players though
Exactly! If a captain has said no, then it is not down to another captain to question that decision, if the player REALLY feels they should be allowed to be released they can talk to a League Runner.
17:39 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
anyone know the current format for individuals? i don't plan to update until i know.
thanks
thanks
17:41 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
just wish it comes out nxt season as fixtures at least games will get played
17:42 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
Power mad captains just what we didn't want. If you don't want to play for our clan you can not play for anyone else and not a thing the player can do about it. At least when this scenario happens there will be no arguments.
And if a player is smart and gets released and then joins a competitor a week later that will not cause arguments either, i am so sure it won't
If we are not allowing a free move per player, lets get in a transfer window
chris said:
Actually think it is less - the Captain/Team allows a transfer of a player somewhere or they dont - no further argument with the rules. Its as black and white as it can be.
Unless your 'certain restrictions' are as black and white of course.
Unless your 'certain restrictions' are as black and white of course.
Power mad captains just what we didn't want. If you don't want to play for our clan you can not play for anyone else and not a thing the player can do about it. At least when this scenario happens there will be no arguments.
And if a player is smart and gets released and then joins a competitor a week later that will not cause arguments either, i am so sure it won't
If we are not allowing a free move per player, lets get in a transfer window
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17:50 Tue 3 Jan 12 (GMT) [Link]
Well you do away with the difference between release and transfer. Someone released by definition does not want to participate anymore, otherwise they would want a transfer.
I think in reality all captains just need to be encouraged to transfer players when they dont want to stay. But likewise players need to accept that in return they might not be able to transfer to their first choice that season. Nothing wrong with that.
I think in reality all captains just need to be encouraged to transfer players when they dont want to stay. But likewise players need to accept that in return they might not be able to transfer to their first choice that season. Nothing wrong with that.
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