either go with token idea (one free transfer so cannot move to 2 clans, free transfer the usual rules apply but you can move without any questions then you must stick with that clan) or one transfer per player with captains permission but then its more work for league runners.

maybe could think of a way to reward people who don't use their token?

The outcome of the poll was a final decision however Jay has asked for input to be made by league players as how to best implement this new rule. I think many good ideas have come up and hopefully can create this new rule fairly.

As for the captains permission, I agree 100% that captains should have to "release" their player and if they do not want to thats fine, but if a refusal to release is appealed against they will need to provide a valid reason why.

So I believe now is the time to move onto the league runners adjudication process this might be more fun

when players are refused a transfer by their captain

1) who does the player go to appeal

2) do they need any criteria

3) what happens to the players if they fail to get a move

4) sanctions for the captains for refusing to play the player in any games because the player upset him or her by trying to manipulate a transfer (evil captain) and failed

Good idea, but hard to reward individuals in a team league

lol is this 'token' thing an xbox/ps3 online thing? Never heard of it before.

1) i would say defaults team plenty members to decide, the 2 teams involved wouldn't have a say.

2) i am not sure but they should give as much information as possible (player and captains) then league staff should check to see if its legit

3) they would stay where they are i think

4) if this in the case and you can easily see it then give a warning to the captain maybe? on second offence maybe the vice should run the clan for 1 or 2 fixtures.

but of course they would deny it due to playing best players etc which would mean its harder to deal with any punishment.

not really, 2 points to that teams total maybe? if they abuse it then give them a fixture ban or something?

and yeah chris i got idea from that

4) is me being evil captain im wondering what happens to me




maybe fed to the lions is a little extreme and plus the lions says they dont think im evil enough



REALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

lions? more like alligators

sorry dgen but we dont think he is tooooooo evil either

So I believe now is the time to move onto the league runners adjudication process this might be more fun

when players are refused a transfer by their captain

1) who does the player go to appeal

Any league runner who will then run it by the others for a decision

2) do they need any criteria

i would only accept an appeal if the captain was treating the player badly, that is MY opinion, other league runners might want to look further into things

3) what happens to the players if they fail to get a move

They should have to stick the rest of the season with their current clan as they do now and move at the end of the season

4) sanctions for the captains for refusing to play the player in any games because the player upset him or her by trying to manipulate a transfer (evil captain) and failed

It is not for league runners to decide who captains put in fixtures, as long as you were not bullying the player initially or started bullying them for wanting to leave there would be no issue from me

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I do not want transfers to be taken lightly and think measures should be in place to make players think carefully about moving. But, and I will use it as an example again, Snooker Squad - we could have avoided that one player sitting out the whole season if this rule was in place as they could have used their one transfer

Looking at the options now that were put up for vote I think you missed out an option between the winning option and the 'free roaming' one.

I am sure one of those put forward by a few of us including ab and horse was to allow players one change of clan (transfer) per season. That would be regardless of any Captain's permission. (But not 'free roaming' which I would have read to mean absolutely no restrictions on permissions or number of times you could transfer.)

That option would mean any of the issues which Craig has rightly raised would simply not exist at all.

I'm not trying to throw a spanner in the works at this late stage - but is it worth thinking about?

chris its why last night i decided not to mention it becuase things were a little heated

Captains Permission is in that rule and should stay, once i read it i had no more to say,, because it didnt matter control of the transfers were still in the hands of the captain

the example i was looking at in my mind was this

say for example Team angry were 3 points behind us in the league and managed to take say 3 of my best players from me,,,, they might sign them.. not even play them for the rest of season,,, but tactically they have stopped me from winning the league if i couldnt sign 3 equal or better players

but with the magical captains permission i could just say no

more to it than that but im sure you my drift

I do get your drift absolutely.

But with the permission thing you can still totally restrict someone from being able to play for fun. And also lead to a time consuming appeals process.

Your scenario was exactly why I advocated no transfers between teams in the same Division. If you had that then I cant see why you would need the captain's permission bit and therefore you can do away with all the issues you raised before.

Certainly no easy solutions

There is nothing wrong, in my opinion, stopping captains using this rule for tactical reasons.

For the example Craig gave, provided he was not bullying that player, I would have no problem Craig exercising his right to politely refuse a player release until the end of the season.

No point having the rule with captains permission/release if they cannot say no to someone leaving.

What if he was bullying them to stop them joining the team 3 points behind him in the table like he says? Are they allowed to join that team?

No fair having a player fit for division one being forced to downgrade to division two to escape an "evil captain" for example.

nps chris

bullying is a strong word i wish you would use a less harsh term

most players in my clan for example arnt under 18 but may well be vunerable



i no i am when reading threads ,,,, and i always feel bullied when i post

the way i view things now really is simple

you can do whatever ruling you want ,,, it wont mean a thing if the captain dosnt consent

so all is good next topic please

one rule can, the transfer window

personally i see no problems with transfers, however i do agree that captains to some extent should be able to keep the player, i have seen previously as posted before that some people would leave the old clan just to get to a "better team" those types should be "refused", meanwhile those who get kicked out for whatever depends whos fault it is if they should be "approved" or "refused" and lastly those who have problems with their clan should be "approved" as long as it wasn't you who started the problems.