The transfer window alone does not deal with the scenario Craig raised.

I think you have to stick to a football type 'contract'/transfer system. If a club does not wish to sell a player during the season (including any transfer window) either to another particular club, or even at all, then they dont. The player then either carries on performing or else rots in the reserves. That is the only rule which works and which cannot lead to arguments over the application of the rules.

It could still unfortunately leave someone stranded and not able to play but hopefully it shouldn't happen. Even in the scenario of thegreatone7 this season that wouldn't have happened as her captain posted somewhere that he didnt mind if she played for someone else.

Either this free roaming should be the way ahead or go for a transfer window mid season. The reason why i am opposed to a transfer window is in theory a team could lose a lot of its players during the transfer week.

The free roaming allows players who are unhappy at not getting played etc an easy option to move onto another clan which is not available to them now.

This is supposed to be a fun league for the members, the discussion regarding the appeals procedure etc is taking things way too far.

I do agree that if we go for free roaming that players who use their right to move once should not play against their previous clan as with the size of squads i think we could easily accommodate this and it would stop any possible bad feeling between the 2 clans involved.

This is what we should be avoiding why should a captain of any clan be able to stop a player playing in what is a fun league or banishing players to the bench. If a player wants out let him have the option to leave to stop power mad captains.

Or lets go for a transfer window mid season where the power mad captain could lose all his team.

League is meant to be fun for all

you could go back to my idea of each player getting 1 free transfer, if the clan treats them right then they should remain loyal to that clan.

if you do go with this if they don't use that free pass then use my reward idea on the last page.

i agree it should be a fun league for all but people take it too seriously (by the way that line is a general statement so i am not singling anyone out here)

I know its meant to be fun but avoiding arguments caused by rules with holes in also contributes to the fun.

Craig's scenario is nothing to do with power mad captains or transfer windows its just common sense for a fair league that that scenario, however unlikely it might be, cant happen.

Just because a Captain doesnt want to let someone go to a particular clan doesnt mean they will block them going anywhere else so that they can play.

horse your right fun for all,,,, but its also about winning

im sure you left your last clan to win in this one,, and if your team found a great player in an opposing team that was better than you had you want him / her

id say wait till the end of the season which isnt very long and have them IF they wanted to leave ,,,the following season

im saying if this happened to your 3 best players you could virtually end a clan all their hopes and fun gone midway through a season

what is the need to have this at all..its a short season anyway players waiting earn respect prove reliability and help clans survive, they dont jump ship at the first sign of trouble or having their heads turned ,, its not like they get paid or do they ???????? joke

clearly this leads to players not having FUN fact

The idea has been voted on and will remain at 1 transfer per season with captains permission, this was the majority vote and will not be changed - we only need ideas on potential limitations

Also with the potential inclusion of 5-6 new clans, this season will be longer than the last

is that per player or per clan jem for clarification?

if per clan.

say Player A wanted to join us so we used our token, then because we used our token Player B could not join? its an alright idea but doesn't really stop those who have been kicked out unfairly, to settle this after the token i feel it should be down to league runners if they feel the move is appropiate

The one free transfer prevents any of this happening. A player either remains or goes to one other clan for that particular season we do not have to worry about every eventuality that anyone can think of. For players who move it was suggested they should miss out a full fixture set so players did not just jump and play straight away.


I think if we go for this one transfer with captains permission we are creating a rule that will not solve the problem and lead to arguments.

It has to be either a one free transfer with certain restrictions or a transfer window. We need to remove the power from the captains.

we have bold already called a Quarantine

I have never left a clan mid season and probably never would unless that clan/captain done something to upset me.

I have always changed clans at the end of the season. This rule is for players who are frozen out by clans currently or are victims of the rules currently.

Also for reference if 3 of my players all wanted to leave mid-season, yes i would not be happy but i would still let them go as they clearly do not want to play for MVP anymore so for the good of the clan and the players that were left it would be better that they went and i replaced them. I trust as a captain that i look after my players well and that they will stop with MVP for the whole season and hopefully beyond so this scenario hopefully never happens

Edited at 15:08 Tue 03/01/12 (GMT)

it is per player... chances are treated well, players will not want to move.

But it should be up to captains whether or not they want to release a player or not. Craig gave a pretty good scenario and as long as the power to refuse is not abused i see no issue with it. Again a player can always ask the league to look at it if they are not happy withh the decision, it would not be time consuming as how many people are likely to move or get refused.

Captains should perhaps make it clear when they sign people that they want them to do the whole season, least the player knows what they are getting themselves into from the start. My lot know this, if this rule was implemented I would not release them without a good reason

i have a sick cat, that good enough for you?

but yeah what about my idea on last page about rewarding players (e.g. 2 points onto clan league table per player who stayed but if this was used tactically then keep score as it was and possibly give a fixture ban to player in question).

Or less if its extended to 3 divisions. Possibilty?

Lol no not good enough, that has no relevance to the league

Perhaps at the end of the season anyone who has had no movers out the clan during the entire season should get an extra 10 - 20 points?

Any arguments will just be in clan and its a fact of life those arguments will go on no matter what.

Take away the permissions aspect and the arguments begin with the rules, the exceptions, the case by case rulings made and thats in addition to taking away the fundimental competetiveness of the league.

Its like saying Man City are top of the table however half their team are wanted by Man Utd. The players have the right to transfer to Utd even though they are under contract to City? Of course not. City have the right to keep them or if they wanted rid then they might agree to let them go to West Ham.

if they all make it through the friendlies then its possible unless you make each clan play once instead of twice?

Could pull a Tevez lol.

If you are 3 points ahead and the team below can poach 3 of your players you must really not be treating your players right, maybe you need to get a hold of the "idiots guide to captaining" i am sure ab will sort you out with a copy