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23:35 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Who are the new runners?
dgeneratio
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23:37 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
next season spoon and its just the runners we have now basically but without me there.

id still do defaults if they wanted me too but not actually run it.
whocares8x8
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23:38 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
this is what happens when you have Captains having a say in defaults and what their closest rivals should and shouldn't get, they will obviously try to look after their own clan,
Again, look at my posts in the discussion over the rule a few weeks ago. I was saying that exactly this would happen.

Looking after my clan? You seem to forget that another member from another clan agreed with me. You also forget that another member from another clan has since said that he would've voted otherwise with the correct information. And you also seem to forget that the members who didn't show in time to vote on this on the defaults forum would've also voted against the bonus being given.

Anyway, I'm out of the defaults team on the FCL and on FBL. I've been accused of being biased several times with no basis whatsoever. I can do without it.
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23:39 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
well as v cap i will be speaking to skiller but with this player signing rule no one going to boot a player as cant replace them.

gutted about this rule as i think it really restrains little teams like us
dgeneratio
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23:39 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
i could change kenny if majority agree that i can change it this season, otherwise it will have to be next
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23:40 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
surely if u were meant to reword it but forgot you can do it as it is needed.
dgeneratio
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23:41 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
staffie_man said:
well as v cap i will be speaking to skiller but with this player signing rule no one going to boot a player as cant replace them.

gutted about this rule as i think it really restrains little teams like us

i think rocket already has matey, hes already on a warning for conceding frames.

hes also on one lost default

doesn't look good but hopefully he can bounce back
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23:42 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
who agrees rule can be changed that if a player has been released they can be resigned as long as captain release
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23:42 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
dont look gd
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23:44 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
staffie_man said:
i not trying to argue seb i just saying from my view it was our players fault. maybe should award a half bonus for issues like this.

un sportsman conduct is going on to much.
I just don't see the relation between unsportsmanlike conduct and the completion bonus. Two completely separate things.
To punish unsportsmanlike conduct, we have the default points (which they got), we have warnings (don't think that happened). The completion bonus is for getting your games completed.


Game would have been completed if the unsportsmanlike act didn't happen this is the point which you are choosing to ignore.

I can see MVP getting 10 points is bothering you and you don't want us to get them so please feel free to take them back if it means that much.

The whole point is that if skiller10 had not left to play a tourney game would have been completed and thus fixture completed and a bonus been allowed for both teams. As skiller is the reason why the game was not completed MVP has been awarded 10 points and their clan has got nothing.

If skiller had left as he had something to do at home i would not expect any bonus to mvp as it would have been tough luck, the point is he remained online after starting a game for a period of time that should have completed the game. By choosing to leave and remain online he has proven that he had no reason to leave other than the tourney, why should MVP be penalised for the actions of him. If he had left for another reason we could not have proved anything other than he was inactive for a period which would never have been a reason to expect a completion bonus, but it is a fact that he left to play a tourney and remained online which you think it is acceptable to penalise MVP for, i understand you want to look out for snooker but interpreting circumstances to try and justify them is pretty poor.

As stated above please feel free to take points back if it means that much to you as from where i sit it is easy to see why game was not completed and the cause.
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23:45 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
I'm fed up with all this arguing, turning into a farce, this is what happens when you have Captains having a say in defaults and what their closest rivals should and shouldn't get, they will obviously try to look after their own clan, all this over 10 points, take them back if it means that much to you, not sure I even want them now, the clan leagues supposed to be fun and it sure doesnt feel like that at the moment.
i wasnt saying that they have a say, they should be able to read the default forum, there have been two instances , that i know, when default info has not been posted, which would have affected both teams. there should not be any problems with captains of teams seeing what is being written, but hopefully ,should cause less arguments because they can see why, which ever team has been given the default
whocares8x8
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23:46 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
You seem to forget that another member from another clan agreed with me. You also forget that another member from another clan has since said that he would've voted otherwise with the correct information. And you also seem to forget that the members who didn't show in time to vote on this on the defaults forum would've also voted against the bonus being given.
dgeneratio
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23:47 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
I'm fed up with all this arguing, turning into a farce, this is what happens when you have Captains having a say in defaults and what their closest rivals should and shouldn't get, they will obviously try to look after their own clan, all this over 10 points, take them back if it means that much to you, not sure I even want them now, the clan leagues supposed to be fun and it sure doesnt feel like that at the moment.

i feel like that 99% of the time lol
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23:48 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
horse10000 said:
staffie_man said:
right warzone here lol

i have a disscussion

a player was booted from there clan weeks ago so i thought we had a deactivator why could we sign them to get told not till end of season thats so unfair on players who been asked to leave there clan means they cant join anyone, this needs to be looked at.


As far as i am aware if the player was released you are free to sign him, need proof from captain of clan he was in that he was released or kicked out. If he left through his own choice you can not sign him and player needs to wait till next season.

Thats my understanding of rules but i am sure dgen will clear it up.

nah you miss the entire season, i meant to reword the rules but i missed it and when season started i couldn't change it.



I vote to leave it as it has been for seasons. If i get kicked out of MVP tomorrow i would expect to play for snooker the next set of fixtures. If i left MVP through my own choice i would realise that i would require to sit out the rest of the season and play for snooker next season.


This has been rule for as long as i can remember and is a good rule as a player who is forced out by a clan can still play but if he leaves on own accord he can't play for rest of season.

Edited at 21:52 Thu 08/12/11 (GMT)
dgeneratio
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23:49 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
anoneeemouse said:
i wasnt saying that they have a say, they should be able to read the default forum, there have been two instances , that i know, when default info has not been posted, which would have affected both teams. there should not be any problems with captains of teams seeing what is being written, but hopefully ,should cause less arguments because they can see why, which ever team has been given the default

imo it should remain private at all times otherwise why have a defaults forum away from funkypool. i needed a forum where i could store data away from this site and change permissions each time a member joins or leaves default staff.

if everyone should see then you may as well dump the defaults site and do it all on these forums, i don't feel very pleasant about it.
dgeneratio
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23:50 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
horse10000 said:
dgeneratio said:
horse10000 said:
staffie_man said:
right warzone here lol

i have a disscussion

a player was booted from there clan weeks ago so i thought we had a deactivator why could we sign them to get told not till end of season thats so unfair on players who been asked to leave there clan means they cant join anyone, this needs to be looked at.


As far as i am aware if the player was released you are free to sign him, need proof from captain of clan he was in that he was released or kicked out. If he left through his own choice you can not sign him and player needs to wait till next season.

Thats my understanding of rules but i am sure dgen will clear it up.

nah you miss the entire season, i meant to reword the rules but i missed it and when season started i couldn't change it.



I vote to leave it as it has been for season. If i get kicked out of MVP tomorrow i would expect to play for snooker the next set of fixtures. If i left MVP through my own choice i would realise that i would require to sit out the rest of the season and play for snooker next season.


This has been rule for as long as i can remember and is a good rule as a player who is forced out by a clan can still play but if he leaves on own accord he can't play for rest of season.

your missing the point, even if you get kicked you miss the season, thats why kenny wants it changed.
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23:52 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
horse10000 said:
dgeneratio said:
horse10000 said:
staffie_man said:
right warzone here lol

i have a disscussion

a player was booted from there clan weeks ago so i thought we had a deactivator why could we sign them to get told not till end of season thats so unfair on players who been asked to leave there clan means they cant join anyone, this needs to be looked at.


As far as i am aware if the player was released you are free to sign him, need proof from captain of clan he was in that he was released or kicked out. If he left through his own choice you can not sign him and player needs to wait till next season.

Thats my understanding of rules but i am sure dgen will clear it up.

nah you miss the entire season, i meant to reword the rules but i missed it and when season started i couldn't change it.



I vote to leave it as it has been for season. If i get kicked out of MVP tomorrow i would expect to play for snooker the next set of fixtures. If i left MVP through my own choice i would realise that i would require to sit out the rest of the season and play for snooker next season.


This has been rule for as long as i can remember and is a good rule as a player who is forced out by a clan can still play but if he leaves on own accord he can't play for rest of season.

your missing the point, even if you get kicked you miss the season, thats why kenny wants it changed.


When was it changed as i it has been as my post for seasons now
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23:53 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
anoneeemouse said:
i wasnt saying that they have a say, they should be able to read the default forum, there have been two instances , that i know, when default info has not been posted, which would have affected both teams. there should not be any problems with captains of teams seeing what is being written, but hopefully ,should cause less arguments because they can see why, which ever team has been given the default

imo it should remain private at all times otherwise why have a defaults forum away from funkypool. i needed a forum where i could store data away from this site and change permissions each time a member joins or leaves default staff.

if everyone should see then you may as well dump the defaults site and do it all on these forums, i don't feel very pleasant about it.
i'm not talking about everyone, i am saying captains. they can then check the correct info has been put on thread for the defaults team to make a judgement
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23:53 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
it means this player who is a gd player and reliable was booted from there clan cause they didnt agree they wanted to stay but captain booted them so i wanted to sign for guns but cant as rule says they miss season which sucks not there fault.
dgeneratio
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23:55 Thu 8 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
i didn't change it that was the rule on daves site and when i skimmed through the rules rewording i missed that one out, as season started i couldn't really change it unless the public allowed me too especially after ab said that if i keep changing things its a lot for clans to take in.

if its a popular thing and im allowed to put it in this season then ill do it.
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