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ab_rfc
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23:09 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Im thinking you don't understand the FCL rules.

They shouldn't be on the teamlist before the fixture starts as under the FCL rules no player can be registered untill their account is 1 month old. so basically when their account becomes 1 month old they are actually a new registered player.

I'll tell you what, you do what you want with the rules and i'll read them once all the changes are made and we'll just get on with it.

Edited at 20:13 Wed 12/10/11 (BST)
dgeneratio
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23:14 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
course i understand the rules my idea to people was to change it, of course it stands for these friendlies.

frankly i don't mind which way we go as it was bugging me for a long time and thought id ask if people wanted it changed or not.

ab_rfc said:
I'll tell you what, you do what you want with the rules and i'll read them once all the changes are made and we'll just get on with it.

your making it out like im rules mad or something, it was an idea, if majority want it then i can't see any harm changing it if majority doesn't want it then i won't change it.

don't forget what i said i want league to be based on ideas and feedback to make it better.
whocares8x8
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23:15 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
that player cant be registered to play in the FCL untill their account is 1 month old.
whocares8x8 said:
Then let them.
I do understand the current rules, but think they should be changed to provide an even playing field for all players.

Example, just so you know what I mean:

My account is 25 days old. I join the clan now. The new fixture starts tomorrow.
I am not allowed to be entered into a fixture yet, because I am not yet eligible.
After 6 days (when my 1 month is up), I can be subbed in if needed. At this point I'm eligible.
ab_rfc
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23:17 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I totally understand the change you want to make, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. at the end of the day your the league runners and if thats what you want to do thats up to you, Im just wondering how many more rules will be getting changed.

Edited at 20:20 Wed 12/10/11 (BST)
whocares8x8
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23:17 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I wrote all that for you and you respond like this?

Only those that should be. Luckily, we're in the offseason.
dgeneratio
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23:20 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ermm ban all players starting with "A"

by the way im joking before anyone comments.
im_crap_adam
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23:23 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Well i think i need a re-read of the rules so ab u was correct when talking to me.

anyway its your opinion obv entitled to it and i highly doubt James will disregard it, so keep your opin and stick to it, some people may feel similar but my opinion is that most will go for the change
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23:23 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Am I silly (probably your all mostly thinking yes) but I thought, you weren't allowed to even be in a clan til your account is at least 1 month. If that means you miss out a fixture by 1 day, then you'll just have to wait 2 weeks.

I don't understand how the new rule would work.
im_crap_adam
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23:25 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
ermm ban all players starting with "A"

by the way im joking before anyone comments.


Good job ya said players and not players who's name starts with
whocares8x8
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23:27 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
It would mean that a player who is below 1 month can join a clan, but is not eligible to play yet (you can mark it on the website by putting the date or changing the color or something).

That player would become eligible to play when his account is a month old AND the fixture set after he joined the clan.

Check out my example a few posts ago. You can't join in the middle of a fixture, then become eligible and play. You would have to join the fixture before.
dgeneratio
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23:30 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
@ chris

if your in teamsheet before fixture start (always been fine with jan and it is for me long as we know who isn't eligible)

then soon as month is up you can play even if you have to wait until last day of deadline

if they aren't in teamsheet before fixture teamsheet deadline then they miss the fixtures until they get put in (quarantine would still stand)

@ adam - yeah i value everyones opinion just didn't appreciate the negative comment towards myself

@ ab's edited post - true you dont have to agree to the idea, with anything will be pros and cons to anything suggested and this is no different, thats why its good to have a discussion about ideas.

about how many more rules - hopefully not many, seems concrete to me, was just something i had to get on my chest as it was bugging me for months and wondered what people thought.

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23:31 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
But thats the rule. 1 month, until you can join a clan. A punishment for deact'ers, and gives newbies time to get used to the site and the rules.
dgeneratio
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23:33 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
its always been fine to put them on teamsheet even before 1 month but would be uneligible to play.

always been like it ever since Jan ran it 3-4 seasons ago.
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23:35 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
But it's never been in the rules though.
dgeneratio
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23:46 Wed 12 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
1.8 Quarantine for new signings
Only players (user names) who are registered for a clan at the time each fixture is published may play games in that fixture. Any player that joins the clan after this point is not eligible to play until the following set of fixtures. Note that this means players changing their user name are also not eligible to play until the next set of fixtures.

doesn't mention about disallowing to put them in teamsheet until month is up though.
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00:30 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
1.8 Quarantine for new signings
Only players (user names) who are registered for a clan at the time each fixture is published may play games in that fixture. Any player that joins the clan after this point is not eligible to play until the following set of fixtures. Note that this means players changing their user name are also not eligible to play until the next set of fixtures.

doesn't mention about disallowing to put them in teamsheet until month is up though.


Your not allowed to join a clan unless your account is 1 month old.
dgeneratio
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00:33 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
also dont forget those is the rules from daves site since ancient times, whos to say it wasn't changed on kennys site?

we always allowed them to put in teamsheet as they know they can't play them until month is up, that won't change thats why i presented my idea what was bugging me.

i'm not sure if potty did or not but i don't think she would object if it lowered defaults.
whocares8x8
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00:53 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
cphaynes said:
Your not allowed to join a clan unless your account is 1 month old.
Yes, that's the thing I'd like to see changed. You should be able to join the clan, but not be eligible to play until the month is up.

That way, everyone can play after their month is up (assuming they've joined a clan). Currently, some players are banned for 6 weeks instead of the 4.
bunrzybhoy
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01:04 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
What's all this cafuffle?
horse10000
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01:04 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
cphaynes said:
dgeneratio said:
1.8 Quarantine for new signings
Only players (user names) who are registered for a clan at the time each fixture is published may play games in that fixture. Any player that joins the clan after this point is not eligible to play until the following set of fixtures. Note that this means players changing their user name are also not eligible to play until the next set of fixtures.

doesn't mention about disallowing to put them in teamsheet until month is up though.


Your not allowed to join a clan unless your account is 1 month old.


Exactly thus why they are not registered at start of that fixture set so exempt from selection until next fixture set. This rule was introduced way back in about season 3 or 4 and no one has complained until now.
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