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17:41 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
wasnt jay it was the generator, but jay said its fixed now.

i don't treat banned users any different to normal ones, i still contact jay through facebook and defaults forum and doing behind scenes work.

why should banned users be treated any different to normal users or even those who deactivate a lot?

if jay did something serious i would kick him out but he hasn't.


Because how are we supposed to take up any decisions he makes with him when he's banned?
What's actually the point in you posting his opinions on here? Besides being against forum rules we can't talk anything through with him whilst he is banned.
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17:41 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
apparently the away part is the part what was messed up so hopefully its settled to make sure ang ill check it before i post to make sure.

@ therev - people always assume banned users are bad people when its mostly the nice ones getting banned, yes they do some silly stuff to get banned and always have a reason to get banned.

do you know how flawless got banned, didn't think so, well i do and its not serious enough to be kicked from the league.

hes serving his time now so should be the end of it.

Edited at 14:44 Thu 13/10/11 (BST)
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17:43 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
dgeneratio said:
wasnt jay it was the generator, but jay said its fixed now.

i don't treat banned users any different to normal ones, i still contact jay through facebook and defaults forum and doing behind scenes work.

why should banned users be treated any different to normal users or even those who deactivate a lot?

if jay did something serious i would kick him out but he hasn't.


Because how are we supposed to take up any decisions he makes with him when he's banned?
What's actually the point in you posting his opinions on here? Besides being against forum rules we can't talk anything through with him whilst he is banned.

theres an FCL page he made on facebook and theres default forum, i might make a general chat actually so users can post (of course need admin permission to be activated but that can be sorted by a single message)
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17:45 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
hes serving his time from funkypool as hes banned, so until he comes back he should be relieved of his duties, when he comes back from his ban and serves the 1month he needs to serve to become a clan member then yes he can come back and do the job he did in first place.

i dont really care why Jay got banned to be honest with ya Dgen bud what i no is hes banned and shunt be getting people to post things on his behalf and shunt be involved in running a clan league as at the moment he cant be trusted as hes a banned user
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17:46 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i dont understand why a generator is being used.... hasnt it always been, player 1 plays player 1, player 2 plays player 2 and so on ?

if im wrong then im sorry, but i thought thats how it worked
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17:47 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poolbiird said:
i dont understand why a generator is being used.... hasnt it always been, player 1 plays player 1, player 2 plays player 2 and so on ?

if im wrong then im sorry, but i thought thats how it worked


thats how Steph ran it Ang and she also dint let banned users be on the leagues committee
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17:50 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
well maybe i do trust him?

until you know the full story you shouldn't have a bad word to say against banned users. only way i would kick jay out if for these things.

- power mad
- cheating in some way

since hes done neither i see no reason to kick him out banned or not.

Jan didn't kick people out from league staff before they are banned either.

i remember kev getting banned when jan ran the league with me and kev helping out but did jan kick kev out no. and at the time it was the right call to make.
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17:51 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poolbiird said:
i dont understand why a generator is being used.... hasnt it always been, player 1 plays player 1, player 2 plays player 2 and so on ?

if im wrong then im sorry, but i thought thats how it worked

its still that ang but jay does them as i send the lists in, he has member tags ready week before so it takes him 20 mins to input the names.

if i did it from scratch it would take me about 45 minutes.
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17:55 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
well maybe i do trust him?

until you know the full story you shouldn't have a bad word to say against banned users. only way i would kick jay out if for these things.

- power mad
- cheating in some way

since hes done neither i see no reason to kick him out banned or not.

Jan didn't kick people out from league staff before they are banned either.

i remember kev getting banned when jan ran the league with me and kev helping out but did jan kick kev out no. and at the time it was the right call to make.


he mixed up the Angries fixture against unbeatables and hes mates with them.

Dgen, ive been banned before so i no what its like been banned and people saying a load of stuff that aint true, like i said i dont care why Jay was banned and cos hes banned he shunt be able to be a league runner
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17:55 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ipotalot said:
dgeneratio said:
wasnt jay it was the generator, but jay said its fixed now.

i don't treat banned users any different to normal ones, i still contact jay through facebook and defaults forum and doing behind scenes work.

why should banned users be treated any different to normal users or even those who deactivate a lot?

if jay did something serious i would kick him out but he hasn't.


Because how are we supposed to take up any decisions he makes with him when he's banned?
What's actually the point in you posting his opinions on here? Besides being against forum rules we can't talk anything through with him whilst he is banned.


dextr posts for other people which is clearly against the forum rules. All the moderators that posted recently on here and not one said anything!

Like ipot said why does his opinion matter when he isn't allowed on the site? When Jay does come back why should he still be apart of the running when he constantly is banned for whatever reason.
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17:56 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
thats fair enough, all im saying is, if someone gives you a list and they come back mixed up, it looks as though the fixture has been hand picked. especially if its only in 1 of the fixtures and not the other
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17:57 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
like i said, generators fault, in future i will check the fixtures with the teamsheets i sent him to make sure they are right.
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18:00 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poolbiird said:
i dont understand why a generator is being used.... hasnt it always been, player 1 plays player 1, player 2 plays player 2 and so on ?

if im wrong then im sorry, but i thought thats how it worked
If you have a generator that includes member tags, it's A LOT less work for the person doing it. Without generator it takes at least 45 mins to an hour.
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18:01 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
why dont you write them up yourself Dgen?

you said earlier that it only takes 45 mins to write them up, all you really have to do is open up notepad/Microsoft word, copy and paste the home teams list, then ya copy player by player to the related game so not going to take ya ages to do, then ya repeat the same action for the other fixtures, not really rocket science if i no a quick of doing the fixtures
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18:01 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
@ sebs post - same with defaults being posted automatically from jans site that took 5 seconds, when i had to handwrite 15 defaults on snooker once i had to do it in groups which took me an hour each time so 2-3 hours in total.
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18:03 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
why dont you write them up yourself Dgen?

you said earlier that it only takes 45 mins to write them up, all you really have to do is open up notepad/Microsoft word, copy and paste the home teams list, then ya copy player by player to the related game so not going to take ya ages to do, then ya repeat the same action for the other fixtures, not really rocket science if i no a quick of doing the fixtures

me/seb do that anyway on snooker but thing is i have to handwrite defaults on the same day so can't expect me to sit doing all that for 5+ hours when a fixture generator can do it in 30 minutes or less.

i send them to jay on a saturday morning and usually they are done by the afternoon, if i did them i would wait until teatime or even next day.
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18:06 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
why dont you write them up yourself Dgen?

you said earlier that it only takes 45 mins to write them up, all you really have to do is open up notepad/Microsoft word, copy and paste the home teams list, then ya copy player by player to the related game so not going to take ya ages to do, then ya repeat the same action for the other fixtures, not really rocket science if i no a quick of doing the fixtures
If you do them 45 mins for pool, about 30 mins for snooker, then defaults etc, you'll be sitting there for hours writing stuff up. This is why he has given the task to another person, who incidentally has a generator that can do it in half the time or less.
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18:14 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
but my point his HES BANNED and shouldnt be doing ANYTHING to do with this site until he comes back from his ban, in the mean time Dgen can ask someone else to do the fixtures, it aint rocket science to write up a few fixtures in a day, IF Dgen as got too much on his plate its HIS own fault as he clearly aint got the time to run 2 clan leagues and deal with the fixtures thats why hes got a team together to help him and that team SHOULDNT include people that are banned from this site
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18:20 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i treat everyone the same banned or not, personally your opinion wont make much difference as ive quite clearly stated i wont be removing flawless until hes done something to make the league unstable (in my view) which atm he hasn't done so so i won't be removing him.
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18:26 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
this league is kinda a joke then if ya letting people that are banned still run the league. do ya no how many times Jay as been banned in the past for stupid things Dgen, i can count of bout 4 or 5 names of his which i cant mention or ill end up been banned for mentioning banned players names or get told off of for naming and shaming.

so can ya really trust someone that gets banned after he comes back from his previous ban i no i wouldnt be able to trust them.
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