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zantetsukenz
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18:27 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I don't see why not and I think it's quite silly to not allow him to do work which the league needs him to do. You would have to see who can volunteer to replace him, then teach them how to do his job and build rapport with them. That all takes time and is pointless really.

You argue that he is banned... from the site. So what? FCL and funkypool are not in anyway affiliated, other than games being played on here. There are seperate bannings for FCL and the site, would you expect someone banned from the FCL to not be allowed to play on funky? of course you wouldn't! so why should it matter the other way round?

The league works because of how the runners manage their tasks, if you starting telling them to do these tasks in a different way to that which they are comfortable to, you run into problems and you aren't helping the league runners.

While it was a one off, there is no problem in keeping things the same. I would understand if this was the 4th or 5th time, but it isn't
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18:31 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Zante ya would be all for Jay stayin on the staff as hes a very good mate of yours so thats a kinda biased opinion.

Its more than 4th or 5th chance tho aint it Zante as Jay is known to get banned not long after he comes back from his previous ban
zantetsukenz
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18:31 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
this league is kinda a joke then if ya letting people that are banned still run the league. do ya no how many times Jay as been banned in the past for stupid things Dgen, i can count of bout 4 or 5 names of his which i cant mention or ill end up been banned for mentioning banned players names or get told off of for naming and shaming.

so can ya really trust someone that gets banned after he comes back from his previous ban i no i wouldnt be able to trust them.


It isn't a joke whatsoever, your are arguing in favour of making things pointlessly more difficult for the league - so of course they are going to go against you, that doesn't make the league a joke.

You are getting personal with Jay when you don't personally know him - you don't know his situation so don't pry. You wouldn't get banned for mentioning a banned users name, you would be warned and it is not naming and shaming

You could argue that you can't trust people who get banned in the first place, which would include you - so do we disregard the things you say?
zantetsukenz
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18:33 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
Zante ya would be all for Jay stayin on the staff as hes a very good mate of yours so thats a kinda biased opinion.

Its more than 4th or 5th chance tho aint it Zante as Jay is known to get banned not long after he comes back from his previous ban

Not biased at all, It's not too hard to be objective.

And 4th or 4th time not chance, he hasn't made 4 or 5 mistakes in the fixtures - it was 1
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18:33 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Don't understand that comment zante FCL and funkypool aren't in anyway affiliated?
Apart from all the games get played on funkypool by members of funkypool and the league would never exist without funkypool. Nick might not endorse the league but it is slightly connected!
What do you ask for when you want league runners james? Someone who is on here regularly is the first thing and as everyone has already said anybody can put 2 sets of players that are already in order together.
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18:34 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i was banned over a year ago now Dgen, not like 2 weeks or how ever long Jay as been banned for, how long before this ban was jay banned and then before that when was the last time jay was banned?

ive been banned once in nearly 9years of been on funkypool and jay as been banned like what 5 times in bout as many years if not less?
zantetsukenz
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18:38 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Don't understand that comment zante FCL and funkypool aren't in anyway affiliated?
Apart from all the games get played on funkypool by members of funkypool and the league would never exist without funkypool. Nick might not endorse the league but it is slightly connected!

The only connection is it is played here:
moderators have no authority in league matters
league runners don't have moderating powers
bannings are seperate for the league and for the site
etc

basically, the powers of the site have no real sway over the FCL - other than anything based on the site like moderating league comments and vice versa.
whocares8x8
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18:40 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Has he ever done anything to hurt the league? No.
All he's doing now is using the generator to randomize and release fixtures quickly. Don't see the problem.
zantetsukenz
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18:40 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
i was banned over a year ago now Dgen, not like 2 weeks or how ever long Jay as been banned for, how long before this ban was jay banned and then before that when was the last time jay was banned?

ive been banned once in nearly 9years of been on funkypool and jay as been banned like what 5 times in bout as many years if not less?


The important thing is though... you have been banned, so it could happen again - some people don't ever get banned being on here years
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18:42 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
zantetsukenz said:
therev said:
i was banned over a year ago now Dgen, not like 2 weeks or how ever long Jay as been banned for, how long before this ban was jay banned and then before that when was the last time jay was banned?

ive been banned once in nearly 9years of been on funkypool and jay as been banned like what 5 times in bout as many years if not less?


The important thing is though... you have been banned, so it could happen again - some people don't ever get banned being on here years


If he got banned i'm sure he wouldn't expect to carry on running a league that's the point.
dgeneratio
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18:42 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
i was banned over a year ago now Dgen, not like 2 weeks or how ever long Jay as been banned for, how long before this ban was jay banned and then before that when was the last time jay was banned?

ive been banned once in nearly 9years of been on funkypool and jay as been banned like what 5 times in bout as many years if not less?

haven't you learned anything i don't base it on banned users or how many times people been banned, i based my choice on these things.

- non biast on the forum/defaults
- my view if they would do the job right
- those who tend to argue like yourself is a straight red card

my answer to jay was yes and i actually ran it past previous runners such as Aaron (i think), Steph, Kev and all said yes so i don't see the issue?
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18:43 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I think if you want to use jay to generate fixtures then fine dgen but he shouldn't be a league runner while he is banned.
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18:43 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I think if you want to use jay to generate fixtures then fine dgen but he shouldn't be a league runner while he is banned.
poolbiird
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18:48 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i dont think a generator is needed full stop, the teams are already in order, couldnt they just be copy and pasted ?
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18:48 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Yes Zante it could happen again i agree but i aint that daft to make a new name then get banned on it after not long since coming back, Jay as been banned 3-5 times now for stupid things BUT Dgen can still trust him when hes been banned 3-5 times for doing something stupid, i dint get any trust from ANYONE when i came back as cutting_edge mainly i got pms of abuse cos people were spreading rumors of how i was banned around funkypool.

Exactly Ipotalot i wouldnt expect to still be a runner if i got banned and if they asked me to carry on i wouldnt carry on anyways as i got banned from funkypool cos of a stupid mistake that i made, id take the time of funkypool to do summat with my life than sit around making fixtures for the clan league
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18:50 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
why dont you write them up yourself Dgen?

you said earlier that it only takes 45 mins to write them up, all you really have to do is open up notepad/Microsoft word, copy and paste the home teams list, then ya copy player by player to the related game so not going to take ya ages to do, then ya repeat the same action for the other fixtures, not really rocket science if i no a quick of doing the fixtures


poolbiird said:
i dont think a generator is needed full stop, the teams are already in order, couldnt they just be copy and pasted ?


ang i said it earlier on and they just ignored my post
whocares8x8
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18:54 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poolbiird said:
i dont think a generator is needed full stop, the teams are already in order, couldnt they just be copy and pasted ?
Well no.
How do you copy paste this (what people send you):

ipotalot
i_am_blessed
captainking1
junster333

into this:

whocares8x8 vs ipotalot
dgeneratio vs i_am_blessed
ccfc1927 vs captainking1
m_wood vs junster333

Add to that captains spelling their player's names wrong, etc...
Furthermore, captains sometimes send their teams in alphabetical order- this means that same players tend to face the same players later in the season again, if fixtures aren't randomized.

A lot of people heavily underestimate the amount of effort and time it takes to run this.
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18:57 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
easy

whocares8x8
dgeneratio
ccfc1927
m_wood

copy and paste those first as there the home side

then copy and paste these names below individually

ipotalot
i_am_blessed
captainking1
junster333

and WOW look what ya got

whocares8x8 vs ipotalot
dgeneratio vs i_am_blessed
ccfc1927 vs captainking1
m_wood vs junster333

oh yes its the fixtures

took a few mins for me to do that not really rocket science is it
dgeneratio
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18:58 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poolbiird said:
i dont think a generator is needed full stop, the teams are already in order, couldnt they just be copy and pasted ?

only the home side, the away side need to be handwritten.

@ blinky i have to update the site, do defaults and do snooker fixtures what next a flying pig? i asked for 4 league runners so they can do various jobs with the league so i can help seb run snooker.

Edit: Seb pretty much summed it up.
dgeneratio
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19:00 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
easy

whocares8x8
dgeneratio
ccfc1927
m_wood

copy and paste those first as there the home side

then copy and paste these names below individually

ipotalot
i_am_blessed
captainking1
junster333

and WOW look what ya got

whocares8x8 vs ipotalot
dgeneratio vs i_am_blessed
ccfc1927 vs captainking1
m_wood vs junster333

oh yes its the fixtures

took a few mins for me to do that not really rocket science is it

nice of you to miss the member tags
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