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poolbiird
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19:27 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
poolbiird said:
do the members need to be tagged ? captains can tag their on teams
Could do. that's how it was a while ago. Captains never ended up tagging the players. This led to players not bothering to add their opponents on the friends list (because they would've had to type the name in the search bar) and games not getting played.
If you want the league runners to put less effort into it, that's cool. But they could also just use a generator.


if the players cant be bothered to type a name to add them, then i doubt they gonna be bothered to get the game played at all. surely thats not the reason you do it ?
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19:29 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
why do the captians have to tag there lists they send Dgen?

why does Dgen have to tag the lists when sending the fixtures to captains?

only time the lists need tagging are when the captain sends out individual messages to there team or have i got that completely wrong?
poolbiird
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19:31 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
why do the captians have to tag there lists they send Dgen?

why does Dgen have to tag the lists when sending the fixtures to captains?

only time the lists need tagging are when the captain sends out individual messages to there team or have i got that completely wrong?


thats what i would have thought dan, theres no real need for the runners to do the tagging, it should be up to the captains.

which would make it alot easier and no need for a generator
whocares8x8
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19:34 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poolbiird said:
if the players cant be bothered to type a name to add them, then i doubt they gonna be bothered to get the game played at all. surely thats not the reason you do it ?
I do it for exactly that reason on snooker.
I think that when fixtures are presented in a way that is more pleasing to the eyes and easier to use (using bold/underline, using member tags) more players will make an effort to add people to friends (it's only 2 clicks).
dgeneratio
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19:34 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
they need to be tagged on the FCL site, yes they dont have to be tagged on funky (yes ive done fixtures like this before) but the fixture generator already has member tags so its a copy and paste deal, less work for me while jay is doing something while serving his ban.
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19:35 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poolbiird said:
therev said:
why do the captians have to tag there lists they send Dgen?

why does Dgen have to tag the lists when sending the fixtures to captains?

only time the lists need tagging are when the captain sends out individual messages to there team or have i got that completely wrong?


thats what i would have thought dan, theres no real need for the runners to do the tagging, it should be up to the captains.

which would make it alot easier and no need for a generator


Not even a pretty face!

sorry...meant not just a pretty face
bulldog_oc
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19:36 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
for example of what you do (using fixture generator)


dgeneratio 0 vs 0 mich
rapid_pot 0 vs 0 rubber_duck
pirate_steve 0 vs 0 long_pot
destiny 0 vs 0 9ballsniper1
whocares8x8 0 vs 0 long_pot
mr_pink_eyes 0 vs 0 ipotalot
bulldog_oc 0 vs 0 nh425
dvz 0 vs 0 wales_lad
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19:37 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
random names i chose from top of my head
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19:37 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
if tagging makes the system complicated why they hell do ya use the generator?

its easier to copy and paste on notepad or microsoft word and then send the lists to the captains who can do the tagging

like my post on the fixtures wen it gots posted it took me all of 2mins to do the fixtures and explain what i would do surely thats makin ur JOB a lot easier Dgen so ya dnt really need this generator
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19:39 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
bulldog_oc said:
for example of what you do (using fixture generator)


dgeneratio 0 vs 0 mich
rapid_pot 0 vs 0 rubber_duck
pirate_steve 0 vs 0 long_pot
destiny 0 vs 0 9ballsniper1
whocares8x8 0 vs 0 long_pot
mr_pink_eyes 0 vs 0 ipotalot
bulldog_oc 0 vs 0 nh425
dvz 0 vs 0 wales_lad


dgeneratio 0 vs 0 mich
rapid_pot 0 vs 0 rubber_duck
pirate_steve 0 vs 0 long_pot
destiny 0 vs 0 9ballsniper1
whocares8x8 0 vs 0 long_pot
mr_pink_eyes 0 vs 0 ipotalot
bulldog_oc 0 vs 0 nh425
dvz 0 vs 0 wales_lad

its easier for Dgen to send the list ive done above so the Captain of the side can do all the taggin makin Dgens JOB that bit easier than what it is sendin the fixtures to someone who then uses a generator who then send them to Dgen who then sends the lists to the captains
dgeneratio
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19:44 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
i post fixtures on clan news then upload to site later in the day.

with generator i can copy and paste fixtures on the site within 5 minutes, tagging alone for 96 fixtures can take me at least 30 minutes and clicking takes me half that time but can't you see the generator is 6 times faster than your fingers?
bulldog_oc
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19:45 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
very true dgen
whocares8x8
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19:46 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
lol i don't understand why people want the runners to refrain from using a generator.
What's the problem with the generator again?
Is this even still about jay?
poolbiird
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19:47 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
I do it for exactly that reason on snooker.
I think that when fixtures are presented in a way that is more pleasing to the eyes and easier to use (using bold/underline, using member tags) more players will make an effort to add people to friends (it's only 2 clicks).


the captains can do that tho, its upto the captains to make sure the games get played, members contact and arrange games and generally keeping their clan in order

dgeneratio said:
they need to be tagged on the FCL site, yes they dont have to be tagged on funky (yes ive done fixtures like this before) but the fixture generator already has member tags so its a copy and paste deal, less work for me while jay is doing something while serving his ban.


they still dont need to be generated before going into the fcl site

ipotalot said:


Not even a pretty face!

sorry...meant not just a pretty face


whos side are you on
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19:48 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
no i cant tbh mate ya wunt have to use the gerator at all bud.

open note pad, name it Angry Vs Snooker squad

ya get angelas team sheet

copy and paste angelas team sheet there

ya get Snooker Squads team sheet for angry (sorry dnt no capt) then copy and paste them one by one next to the player that was number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 on the lists so they play each other

then ya save it and when the time comes to release the fixtures ya message them to Angela and the Snooker Squad captain
whocares8x8
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19:49 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
poolbiird said:
whocares8x8 said:
I do it for exactly that reason on snooker.
I think that when fixtures are presented in a way that is more pleasing to the eyes and easier to use (using bold/underline, using member tags) more players will make an effort to add people to friends (it's only 2 clicks).


the captains can do that tho, its upto the captains to make sure the games get played, members contact and arrange games and generally keeping their clan in order
True, but it doesn't help the league much when games don't get played, regardless of whether it's the captain's fault or not.
the job of the league is to do their best so that clans won't fold, so if tagging does something towards that, they do it.

I'm not even a runner here- only on snooker.
But I can tell immediately from the comments in this thread that the time and effort required by runners to keep it running smoothly is massively underestimated.
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19:50 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
poolbiird said:
if the players cant be bothered to type a name to add them, then i doubt they gonna be bothered to get the game played at all. surely thats not the reason you do it ?
I do it for exactly that reason on snooker.
I think that when fixtures are presented in a way that is more pleasing to the eyes and easier to use (using bold/underline, using member tags) more players will make an effort to add people to friends (it's only 2 clicks).


but the captains tag your opponents then the players add them anyway
whocares8x8
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19:50 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
therev said:
no i cant tbh mate ya wunt have to use the gerator at all bud.

open note pad, name it Angry Vs Snooker squad

ya get angelas team sheet

copy and paste angelas team sheet there

ya get Snooker Squads team sheet for angry (sorry dnt no capt) then copy and paste them one by one next to the player that was number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 on the lists so they play each other

then ya save it and when the time comes to release the fixtures ya message them to Angela and the Snooker Squad captain
Then you do that for the 11 other fixtures and your 45 minutes are complete.
poolbiird
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19:50 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
lol i don't understand why people want the runners to refrain from using a generator.
What's the problem with the generator again?
Is this even still about jay?


was never about jay for me, i dont think we need a generator

ive already explained why but here goes again, it has messed with team lists in the past (dgen has assured me it wont happen again) and it makes people think things are being done unfairly

*sigh*
whocares8x8
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19:52 Thu 13 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Oh right, if the generator isn't working that's another issue and needs to be looked at. But if it is fixed and can be used, they definitely should. It makes it easier, quicker, and as a bonus produces randomized fixtures.
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