the vice/captain thing im thinking of changing it too.

Only Captain and Vices can make subs but a couple of scenarios which will exclude the above.

- Captain and Vice is inactive (meaning 4-5 days +)
- Captain/Vice give permission for players to do subs

what you think?

scenario -

liam wants to make the swap but had no written permission and rule states it must be captain/vice unless they give permission.

liam also told me his vice has given him a text to give him permission but im not 100% sure and rules is clearly against him here.

should i allow the swap and if it turns out unbeatables vice didn't give permission then i cancel the game and the swap or just leave it for captains/vices to sort.

the wrong time for unbeatables captain to go AWOL.

A good reason for there not to be a limit on number of swaps a captain can make, because the opposing team captain can make the swap of her players to make fixture work (As long as both captains and both vices don't all go AWOL).

If there was a limit on number of swaps each team could make this wouldn't be the case.

theres no limit anyway mate.

It was suggested a while ago that there should be in the 1st week to stop captains from picking who plays who.

least this scenario allows us to make league better, any rule changes would still stand until nov 5th as thats the day before season starts.

what you all propose?

I lied about the text though :P

But they will give me permission

i have no doubt but just need it in writing for now least unless the rule changes which unless majority of people have problems it won't

ideally i could change it to...

subs/swaps dont need to be approved by anyone, however if the captain/vice of your clan doesn't want players to make subs then all subs regarding that clan would be cancelled.

only if majority agree, i don't mind either way.

If you do that people will find a way to cheat only be happy if they won the game if they lost it they will want to cancel it

i was thinking if they said it before the fixture set started.

Has how the fixtures are done changed, it was always done in the order the captain sends the names, basically the players are in order 1 to 8 then matched up to the opponents, this was brought in a long time ago to make it fair and to stop league runners matching up certain players.

We seem to have quite a few rule changes being discussed this pre-season, rules that have worked perfectly fine for long enough, things like time clock, who makes subs etc, why are rules that have worked for long enough without any arguments or debates even being discussed, Im seeing quite a few possible changes ahead, I used to class the FCL as the main league but Im not sure if I like what I see now.

what you propose then ab?

fixture generator was a mistake on flawless' part as he told me somehow they jumbled up the away names which is now fixed, ang had a right to get it changed to her original teamlist which i did, we all make mistakes, the key thing is we learn from them to make yourself better as a person.

the time thing like i kept saying only affects 2 people the people who are playing, what we should be talking about is the rules what affects everyone in general like the subs thing, if people want subs like it was before they only have to give the nod and i will do it.

just trying to make league better but i can't without members input.

the snooker clan league was made through peoples ideas, the format, frames, cup, golden cue, everything, not sure what FCL was like back in the day but i want FCL like the snooker league through peoples ideas and feedback.

Edited at 16:41 Mon 10/10/11 (BST)

So are the fixrures still done in the order they are sent by the captains ?

yep, always had always will, was just a mistake on the fixture generators part.

if i really wanted to do it random i would have said so.

so far (12 is guideline to pass atm)

Unbeatables - 10
Team Angry - 8
Mouseketeers - 3
MVP - 3
Snooker Squad - 3
Underdogs - 3
Top Dogs - 2
Latin Legends - 2
Wolf Pack - 2
Top Guns - 2
Shooters - 0
Top Pool Aces - 0

Edited at 21:52 Tue 11/10/11 (BST)

somethings been bugging me about the month rule.

when someone is ineligible before fixture starts but eligible during that fixture, if they get put in teamlist before it starts should we allow them to play from their eligibility date or wait until fixture is over?

Ex.

Unbeatables sign mr_safe who can't play until 9th Nov, fixture starts at 6th Nov, do you allow them to play from 9th Nov (meaning eligible from 3 days) or from 20th Nov (meaning eligible for 11 days)?

on snooker we allow them from eligibility date but i wondered your thoughts on this.

cheers

Edited at 18:14 Wed 12/10/11 (BST)

Well, not just because its my player thats been questioned here, but i think its a good idea as if they are put in the team before fixtures... they could have to wait 6weeks to play a clan game even when they are eligable after 4 which i can imagine would be annoying?

Its a yes from me Jamesy boy

you have two weeks to play fixtures...here's my thoughts

if a player is eligible date lies in first week of fixture set - player allowed to be selected

HOWEVER

if a player will become eligible on a date in the second week of fixtures then they will be ineligible for that fixture set

...i think that this makes it fairer as if a player was due to be eligible on the last day of fixture set, then the one month rule would then be almost 2 weeks


thoughs?