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dgeneratio
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16:47 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
due to increase in clans the individual league where you have to play clan teammates in 10 games MUST be changed.

i propose we put it as first 50-75% of games for teammates (depending on how many teammates join).
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16:54 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Good idea.

I'll be hosting the individual, the cap per category will be 25 people.

Let the debates begin
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17:29 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
when you start it theres an individual thread
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22:36 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  


Edited at 19:45 Mon 03/10/11 (BST)
doubted2
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22:46 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
can we discuss individual leagues

can we do this in fixtures,, reason i ask is every season there is so many un played games
ab_rfc
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22:52 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
5.7 Swapping two players
As a means to combat time zone problems and the like, captains may swap two players within a match if this improves chances of games getting played. This does not count towards the maximum number of subs allowed. These are subject to approval by the league runners.

What if the league runners are not on but the captain wants to make the swap because players are on that can play ?.
Getting league runners approval could stop games getting played if they aint on.
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22:53 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
techno is in charge of individuals so its up to him.
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22:56 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
to be honest ab

i dont think there is a need to swap anymore

if you read the subs part any players maybe subbed in and out anyway so this rule may not be needed
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23:02 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
If we don't need approval for subs we shouldn't need it for swaps, I still think swaps will happen, not very often but as long as its in the rules we might aswell clear it up.
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23:03 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ill remove the runners bit later.
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23:07 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
If we don't need approval for subs we shouldn't need it for swaps, I still think swaps will happen, not very often but as long as its in the rules we might aswell clear it up.
Can we add that both captains have to agree? Otherwise match-fixing might become an issue?
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23:17 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
^ i believe thats why kev made that rule subject to league runners, runners only step in if we think match fixing is happening and if it is we will cancel the subs and warn the clan in question
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23:29 Mon 3 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
what if both captains are not on, just make it messy by posting to sub the players out then back into the opposite fixture lol

All this getting approval of league runners and captains is going to restrict games getting played, forget the swap rule if approval is required, easier to bypass it with subs.

Edited at 20:40 Mon 03/10/11 (BST)
dgeneratio
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12:33 Tue 4 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dont worry i got rid of it last night

i agree it can be match fixing but snooker has never had it so hopefully pool won't either but if it does happen ill cancel subs and warn, if it happens after that ill suspend the clan for that season.

happy?
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13:55 Tue 4 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
captains should both agree and put it on each of the teams thread or vice captains can no one else i had last year my players making subs that cant happen
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16:27 Tue 4 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
cke1982 said:
captains should both agree and put it on each of the teams thread or vice captains can no one else i had last year my players making subs that cant happen

naturally only captain and vices can make subs unless they give their players permission.
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21:55 Tue 4 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
just for everyones information from pre friendly onwards ONLY the registered Captain or Vice Captain can make subs, every other sub will be void unless the Captain/Vice gave permission which should be posted on subs page.

cheers
whocares8x8
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21:59 Tue 4 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Re: Swaps
Oh right- I didn't realize you can sub a player into a game after he's been subbed out in FCL. That of course means swaps don't matter and don't need approval.
You can take out rule 5.7, because if subs are unlimited, swaps are fine.
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22:02 Tue 4 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
Re: Swaps
Oh right- I didn't realize you can sub a player into a game after he's been subbed out in FCL. That of course means swaps don't matter and don't need approval.
You can take out rule 5.7, because if subs are unlimited, swaps are fine.

yeah was made like snooker to cut down default and from last season we didn't have many to do so was a success.

Edit: got rid of swap rule but changed it with rule i mentioned above

Edited at 19:06 Tue 04/10/11 (BST)
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22:57 Tue 4 Oct 11 (BST)  [Link]  
dgeneratio said:
just for everyones information from pre friendly onwards ONLY the registered Captain or Vice Captain can make subs, every other sub will be void unless the Captain/Vice gave permission which should be posted on subs page.

cheers



Why are we making it harder to get subs done if you tell a player to look out for someone and if you see them sub themselves in to get game played, this can no longer happen as they have to wait for permission and captain/vice to post, this rule is a complete waste of time and will add to defaults rather than help to stop them.
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