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12:21 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Its help as well as a hindrance for the player is currently with (the naming rule) as they can then go and find replacements sooner
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12:28 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Didn't think I would ever say this...

But I agree with Craig.

Back a few seasons ago when players could not move from 1 clan to another willy nilly clans were more stable and reliable, in my opinion.

I suppose a few players could get together and leave a single clan to try and make it fold or whatever but then if they did I still wouldn't let them join another clan as it was their fault.
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14:37 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Back a few seasons ago when players could not move from 1 clan to another willy nilly clans were more stable and reliable, in my opinion.

totally agree with Mich

Rules used to be that you couldn't play for more than one clan in a season.
dgeneratio
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14:40 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ill point kev in this direction later on, just focusing on backing up FCL site
blueberry
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14:52 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
Back a few seasons ago when players could not move from 1 clan to another willy nilly clans were more stable and reliable, in my opinion.

totally agree with Mich

Rules used to be that you couldn't play for more than one clan in a season.


Just read through the last few pages and this is the question I want answered... when was this rule changed ?, as this seems to have been the turning point for the majority of the problems arising recently on the forums.... Thanks
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15:17 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
col i asked the ? regards this being changed and it was denied hmmmmmmmm

are you telling me this wouldnt have been discussed at length ... i think so

when steph (pot the lot) was doing it any rules changes were sent to teams and debated.

this was changed for a reason ,,, i ask why

also why did it need be done as teams have 15 players now instead of 14 last year, why do clans need to poach clan players during a season

its totally rubbish nd cuases friction

i feel sorry for harry and huts who were approached with no denials

but i went by the letter of the rule and refused

still a totally un-needed rule
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15:25 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
if the players are happy with the team they will not move on
so what is the panic for
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15:36 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
aye thats just the way it is, life sucks!

may aswell get over it
blueberry
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15:43 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Or if the player can't take over the clan they are in as it isn't their clan
dgeneratio
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15:44 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
doubted2 said:
col i asked the ? regards this being changed and it was denied hmmmmmmmm

are you telling me this wouldnt have been discussed at length ... i think so

when steph (pot the lot) was doing it any rules changes were sent to teams and debated.

this was changed for a reason ,,, i ask why

also why did it need be done as teams have 15 players now instead of 14 last year, why do clans need to poach clan players during a season

its totally rubbish nd cuases friction

i feel sorry for harry and huts who were approached with no denials

but i went by the letter of the rule and refused

still a totally un-needed rule


A) it needs discussing in more detail before we consider changing it, pros cons etc

B) i don't know why i think it was there when i started clans im not sure

C) it was just a trial see how things go

D) please dont bring other players into it where its sure to cause an argument

E) you had every right to refuse

F) maybe silly but for now its up to captain if a player wants to be released or not

doubted2
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15:52 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
big_mouse said:
if the players are happy with the team they will not move on
so what is the panic for


mind ur business clan wrecker
blueberry
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15:59 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
I was just thinking hypothetically of reasons a player may wish to leave their clan. Other than as Rick mentioned not being happy which I agree is a valid reason at times.
blueberry
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17:54 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Both the captain of fraggles and kenny have deactivated , yet again..

Edited at 15:51 Fri 12/08/11 (BST)
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18:05 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Not getting regular games or being subbed out of games they have been trying to get played are valid reasons i've seen this season.

thegreatone7 is vipers captain now but you can't raise any concerns about people who host sites deactivating or the whole thread gets deleted.
dgeneratio
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18:08 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
put all the matches on the back up site (including previous fixture sets).

just need to update clan league tables and current results/subs etc.

golden cue would take me longest as i prefer to update from scratch so i know where im at (as kennys site updates partially played games also which i dont.

also for new season if you want i can get rid of top scorers golden cue and add a frames win % golden cue on there.

let me know
doubted2
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21:59 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
try nd leave everything as it is dgen

if it aint broken dont fix it
whocares8x8
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22:07 Fri 12 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
There are two sides-
1. Clans can more easily fold if players are constantly leaving. At the moment however, captains have to release a player for him to be able to leave.
2. On the other hand, with a total ban on transfers, captains who have a falling out with one of their players can completely shut them down for the rest of the season. The captain will just not play that player anymore and the player has no way out. He'll just sit for the rest of the season. That's not fair either.

For next season, I can only recommend a 1-week transfer window in the middle of the season, outside of which no player is allowed to transfer.
About time you kids learn something from snooker...
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13:54 Sat 13 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
It is annoying when players get talked into leaving but it is part and parcel of the game as i've accepted now.
There are loads of really good free agents we bump into in tourneys all the time just takes a bit of effort from captains/vices and some messaging to get the player replaced.
However good the player is they are replaceable and most of the time you can replace them with better, more keen and loyal players straight away.
dgeneratio
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14:17 Sat 13 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
yeah most clans tend to miss the free agents list, can be some good people in there at times.
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15:41 Sat 13 Aug 11 (BST)  [Link]  
Even if there aren't if you message good players you keep bumping into a lot of them have wandered about getting into clans and some just didn't know how.
Some played before and their clan folded or their circumstances were different and they weren't on enough, some dont even know anything about clans so worth a message to find out.
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