Tournaments revisited - friendly and micro tournaments

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joker86
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03:47 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Bumped!!
nick said:
Right - I've scheduled some friendly tournaments in now. They are currently the same time each day, during our peak hours:

Friendly 8 Ball Tournament 19:30
Friendly 8 Ball UK Tournament 20:30
Friendly 9 Ball Tournament 21:30


Also all the micro tournaments are now hourly - meaning 24 places per hour. They are deliberately frequent - if they don't fill it's no big deal.

Regarding stats - yes it would be an interesting stat and can see no reason why not, so I will take a look. I'm not so enthusiastic about having a leaderboard for these tournament formats though, but that's different.

Edited at 19:31 Wed 26/01/11 (GMT)
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03:51 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I know but i just don't see the point.. well i do but i don't like it
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10:40 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
TOURNAMENT: Slow punishment - gamer and wildcard forfeit the tournament
RESULT: Micro 8 Ball UK Tournament - wildcard (0) loses to gamer (1) with 1 ball remaining
RANKINGS: gamer 844.4 (+1.5), wildcard 741.0 (-1.5)

how can it be slow punishment when i potted the black and won the game lol ???? i get the ranking points but not the torni points
dgeneratio
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12:37 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
at least its only micro and you don't win a lot of tournapoints for micro anyway
chaos_
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13:48 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Useful input dgen ? ... Think the point is there's a flaw there somewhere ?

Personally gamer i think u should of been deducted
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14:30 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
i think ive seen this before somewhere, very rare this happens but im sure if it can be fixed nick will do it
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14:32 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
chaos_ said:
Useful input dgen ? ... Think the point is there's a flaw there somewhere ?

Personally gamer i think u should of been deducted


lol shurrup u. im stuck in limbo here and you dont care
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14:44 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
lol
_nojustice
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16:16 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
nick said:
_nojustice said:
in other words a pointless tourny that should be replaced when it stands for nothing. Afterall - apparently the tournys are the focus point now.


It's not pointless for newbies nor those that wish to participate friendly games in a tournament structure.


at first you made all of them ranked stating that tournys were the way foward, now you've seen sense and have made friendlies which were there in the first place.

What's the point of a friendly tourny if it only comes around on a very rare basis, why not chance it back to all unranked - Those that are currently friendlies you change to ranked so there are more friendly ones? I've noticed on a previous thread people wasn't that keen on this idea from the start.

The ranking system is screwed completly now i've seen people who are 830 who shouldn't even be above 800. Win 6 games in a tourny and earn yourself 18points lose 4points to someone way higher they make a huge some without losing too many games. Not a good idea.

Edited at 15:20 Thu 27/01/11 (GMT)
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16:59 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I would personally like to congratulate nick and all the admin team because it's very hard to keep a game running so sufficiently to encourage new users and long time players alike! No matter what is done, there will always be some people that like change and some people that don't!
But i have been playing since the start on various accounts and on poolsharks too and you only have to look at the progression made over the years and the overall popularity of the website to give them the benefit of the doubt!
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17:12 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I completely agree with _nojustice
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17:43 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
_redherring_ said:
I would personally like to congratulate nick and all the admin team because it's very hard to keep a game running so sufficiently to encourage new users and long time players alike! No matter what is done, there will always be some people that like change and some people that don't!
But i have been playing since the start on various accounts and on poolsharks too and you only have to look at the progression made over the years and the overall popularity of the website to give them the benefit of the doubt!


Well said, there will always be those who oppose change, yet Nick, and his team, risk the site's popularity with changes to make it better for us.

As for the rank situation, I think it's harder to get high rank now, as one slip in a tournament against someone low and you lose a good 6 games worth of rank.

I'm glad for the re-implementing of the Friendly tournaments, but is there any chance they could rotate? So one day the UK is at 8:30, the next it's at 9:30...Also, maybe adding another three in the early hours or the morning for our American/Australian (and all the rest) players? (Clearly only if they are wanted...)
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18:05 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
dark_angel said:
_redherring_ said:
I would personally like to congratulate nick and all the admin team because it's very hard to keep a game running so sufficiently to encourage new users and long time players alike! No matter what is done, there will always be some people that like change and some people that don't!
But i have been playing since the start on various accounts and on poolsharks too and you only have to look at the progression made over the years and the overall popularity of the website to give them the benefit of the doubt!


Well said, there will always be those who oppose change, yet Nick, and his team, risk the site's popularity with changes to make it better for us.

As for the rank situation, I think it's harder to get high rank now, as one slip in a tournament against someone low and you lose a good 6 games worth of rank.

I'm glad for the re-implementing of the Friendly tournaments, but is there any chance they could rotate? So one day the UK is at 8:30, the next it's at 9:30...Also, maybe adding another three in the early hours or the morning for our American/Australian (and all the rest) players? (Clearly only if they are wanted...)


i agree to both of the above
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18:11 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
you can do 2 micro tourneys in one

09:40 Thu 27/01/11 Won the Micro 9 Ball Tournament, winning 42 TournaPoints!
09:37 Thu 27/01/11 Won the Micro 8 Ball Tournament, winning 84 TournaPoints!
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18:39 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
wcfa2011 said:
you can do 2 micro tourneys in one

09:40 Thu 27/01/11 Won the Micro 9 Ball Tournament, winning 42 TournaPoints!
09:37 Thu 27/01/11 Won the Micro 8 Ball Tournament, winning 84 TournaPoints!


haha yeh but looking at the points won looks like only 3 people entered first tourny and 5 in second
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19:05 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
nope 6 then 7 actually
_nojustice
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20:01 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
micro tourny's are pointless unless there worth a tourny point.

Or maybe have 120 and 1/4 tournys wins. Each micro is a 1/4 of the tourny. works out then as 32 people per tourny win.
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20:23 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
_nojustice said:
at first you made all of them ranked stating that tournys were the way foward, now you've seen sense and have made friendlies which were there in the first place.


You seem to have missed one fundamental difference - friendly tournament winners do not count as a tournament win. Consider them exactly the same as playing a friendly game.

_nojustice said:
The ranking system is screwed completly now


The ranking system has not been changed.

_nojustice said:
micro tourny's are pointless unless there worth a tourny point.


Let the entrants be the judge of that.

_nojustice said:
Or maybe have 120 and 1/4 tournys wins. Each micro is a 1/4 of the tourny. works out then as 32 people per tourny win.


That's roughly how TournaPoints work.
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20:42 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Boom! You got served!
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20:57 Thu 27 Jan 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
nick said:
_nojustice said:
at first you made all of them ranked stating that tournys were the way foward, now you've seen sense and have made friendlies which were there in the first place.


You seem to have missed one fundamental difference - friendly tournament winners do not count as a tournament win. Consider them exactly the same as playing a friendly game.

_nojustice said:
The ranking system is screwed completly now


The ranking system has not been changed.

_nojustice said:
micro tourny's are pointless unless there worth a tourny point.


Let the entrants be the judge of that.

_nojustice said:
Or maybe have 120 and 1/4 tournys wins. Each micro is a 1/4 of the tourny. works out then as 32 people per tourny win.


That's roughly how TournaPoints work.

The friendly tourny takes place instead of a ranked tourny without any benifit to others other then a few friendly games.
The Ranking system has been changed what happened to the 2.3 win for an 800 vs 803 player? its not something usless at 1.7 points which isn't worth while.
As for the micro tourny i've won a few and had alot of semi's in them now as they're basic and easy personally a twist that either needs to be brought in making them worth something or changing to a chance where you can double your points.....
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