Is this the same AL that wanted these changes,mocked top players for avoiding tournies and is now despairing at losing too much rank.If you decide to enter knowing the risk why bottle it at the end especially after the things you have said previous.Can't have this site running just to suit you,cos it certainly don't suit me or many others now and I don't expect to change.Just get on with it,you asked for it mate.

PS before you come back at me with some technical highbrow garbage I'm not bothered and I'm not the one whining.

Boycotting a final because of rank is abit pathetic really, i think your taking rank far too seriously and its only you thats making a fuss as your ranks high, you enter a tournament to win it not to gain rank anyway so if you dont like losing rank dont play in tournaments. So stop ranting on and get on with it

In my opinion i prefer tournaments wins rather than rank so if i lost alot of rank it wouldnt really bother me wether my rank was 900 or 600

Some people eh!

the reasons for not playing could be multiple (few examples):
1. The player entered tourney coming up in 10min and while continue playing his opponent get's invite which he misses because he didn't want to loose points at the current game for whatever reason.
2. The player entered tourney, but at the last moment or in the middle of the tourney his real life circumstances made him quit and the punishment is just unfair because he didn't cause any damage to his opponent or the tourney.
3...
4...
etc.

I'm sorry but many seams do not to realize that the simplest way to satisfy all is just to make points in the ranked tourneys, or even all tourneys, same as in regular ranked games.
I just don't understand why the whole funkypool existence should suddenly turn towards the "New Tournament" and practically make regular games pariah which are actually the reason for people to join and play funkypool games.

Thanks Nick

I joined this site, then got my wife and son in here because it was a place were we can come and have fun

invited a few other close friends as well

we had FUN entering the tourneys

now with the new all ranked tourneys they are all leaving

do not blame them in the least

most players who know me know I enter the tourneys knowing I am gonna get beat but I try

it ain't worth me trying now when I enter a tourney and at my ranking I am the lowest rank playing

my wife wont enter the tourneys since now all she does is break em ... and watch them run it out ... without a second shot ...

why even try ... ?

Simple idea - separate the two - ranked games and ranked tournaments. You would then have one set of rankings for those that wish to concentrate on rankings and one set of rankings for those that wish to concentrate on tournaments. As ranked tournaments have only just started this wouldn't be too hard to implement and would have minimal effect on all players. Everyone would start on 675 in the tourny rankings and then after a while the natural hierarchy will develop. Tournapoints stays along with the medals etc etc

As I said right at the beginning a few weeks ago I am all in favour of ranked tournies but didnt anticipate double points nor the way it has been set up. I see this as constructive dialogue where anyone can have a say and not an opportunity to just have a go at someone. I deliberately highlighted why I dropped out of last night's tournament prior to commencement of the final (thus giving up the chance for 500+ tournapoints) so that this issue is discussed and tweeks made if feasible / possible.

I'm sorry to hear you're not enjoying yourself, nighthunter, but having the top players play in the tournaments is, surely, a good thing.



This really has very little to do with this change, it's mostly due to him being a newbie.

Regarding dropping out from tournaments - some players are currently ranked too low. This was largely due to the previous system which didn't record the number of ranked games. This has been fixed now but it will take a month or two to level out.

have you not noticed alot are boycotting, deleting or just coming off the site all together?





Completly agree there again al i dont care about tournys i've been there done that blah blah blah, im not exactly the best during tournys as i get bored/black out/log out or just lose.

The reason for double points is beyond me, considering all they do again nick is cheat theirway back down lower which you and i know will be almost impossible to prove if they lose 5/6 games then win 2 and yet still remain -8points or even just losing in a tourny so they lose double points.

People dont care about the %'s in games, some do some dont those who dont and are low will just lose so they remain lower ranked so double points hardly affect them losing anything.


All for having Ranked tournys, even if it is all of them but double points is a no. Always will be a No and should be removed IMO. There are ways around this already as i have mentioned and it will never "level out" to the "way it should be".

You've had your say, unknown_id, either bring up some different (preferably constructive) points or stop hijacking this thread.

From what I have seen in some tournaments there has been more entering.

I have entered 2 tournaments since the update and lost both, does not bother me in any way, in fact they were quite enjoyable and I will continue to enter them when ever I have time.

Nice work Nick

Is it me or has anyone realised that your losing rank because realisticly most players are higher than they should be. So really your coming down to the level you actually are it just means it would be more of an achievement to get to virt really. My only problem with double points is will it ever settle on a set rank. Like for ages when i was a newbieish i couldnt get over 820 in UK etc but with double points its up down shake it all about lol.

Not that im against it im just curious, all in all i think its an improvement.

if you'd have read nick i favoured the idea of what al said, putting a set rank in not just double points. If every tourny was ranked how it used to be (refering to the ranking system) there wouldn't be as much fuss, would be no different from playing a ranked game nor a tourny game which would encourage more.

I also mentioned idea's which im unsure if you saw so you may need to scroll back a few pages to find them.

I think it is always going to be yo-yo'ing up and down somewhat due to the number of events in a day, which is why you can only get a true picture over an extended period of time.

With apologies to those who hate comparing this to real life games and sports , they might have a tournament a week. On here therefore you have in effect just shy of the equivalent of 6 months worth of competition in the space of a day with hourly tournaments let alone normal ranked games.

After reading some of the comments I would like to add my own. firstly I like the updates and think it adds a new spin to the site.

I think after a while of the system in place everyone who takes part in tournaments ranks will represent them fairly. I think the site will be more competitive now to keep ranks high which is only fair anyway. Why should people be highly ranked when they don't play ranked games after reaching the 800 milestone?

The ranking tournaments I also like, its good that you have to put a risk of your own ranking points in to get the reward of the win. The only thing is that if you win the tournament you may come out with less ranking points than when you entered.

All in all i think its a great addition to the game and good to see the site moving forward

Good post, agree entirely with what masenko has said there. I think its perfectly justifiable to add more of a competative edge to tournaments. As has already been said, if a player is good enough to be of a high ranking they will soon gain back any points lost, theres only so many times you will be fluked out of a game. The only thing that needs sorting out is the boycotting of games, perhaps players should be punished more for boycotting a first to 5 match like al_ did? For me that just ruins that tournament, and im sure the opponents he knocked out wouldnt have been too happy to see him just boycot it. I believe if you enter you see it through to the end.

You're clearly missing the point that nick is trying to make tournys the forefront of this site, and making ranked games in tourny double points means people should be thinking that they can obtain higher ranks in tournys.

As far as I can see, It's a small amount of users who don't like this. Just take the bull by the horns and go with it.

This is the root of what many are percieving as a problem just now.

Many "rank players" were artificially highly ranked due to always being able to pick their opponents.

Many "tournament players" were artificially low due to not playing ranked games.

This, and the effects of this, do not mean there is anything wrong or needs to be changed, it will just simply take a few months for the ranks to "level out" to the more realistic levels they should be.


Just a small rhetorical question now : how many people can remember the last time the rank system was changed, and despite the uproar at the time (many more people objected to that than are objecting to this) - did anyone notice when the previous ranks dissapeared from the tables?

You make very good points in 3 & 4

Matt - Grow a pair, stop whining.

And boycotting finals is a joke lol, just because of the rank of an opponant, if your good enough to get a high rank your good enough to beat the majority of the people in the tourny IMO.

Don't take it too seriously.

As dublindude would say - "Be cool, enjoy pool"

" I'm sorry to hear you're not enjoying yourself, nighthunter, but having the top players play in the tournaments is, surely, a good thing. "

Nick ...
I spoke to jimfaebod last night about this .. he suggested I post ... I pointed out no matter what I had said you would not see the point ... and I was right

changing the tourneys to all ranked might be great for some ...

while it chases others away who come here for FUN

NOT to be cannon fodder for the better players

I come here for fun with my friends and Family ... and now I will be here until I find a place that still is FUN for all ages and skill

You can keep thinking its great for everyone ...
keep telling yourself this
maybe it might come true