Nick, just been having a chat to warpath, and tested it a little myself.

It seems this lag update has really effected touchpads, mine gets an awful lot of "system lag things" when i am playing with it, but i get none when i play with my mouse.


And i also agree with the above posts... The balls and power seems to be alot harder.

Though i disagree with not finding a middle ground, i think the balls are moving faster.

i have to agree with horse on this 1, its a joke, i cant get power right because i hit it medium pace and breaks the table in half or sure as hell looks like it. and soft shots either dont reach or roll on way too far.

it was much better the way it was the other day when it didnt cost people rank and tournies

I'd hardly call it 'a joke'. its an effort at improvement, and though it works fantastically for me (with a touch pad) I understand that perhaps it doesn't work so well for others. Remember there are literally millions of different computer set-ups that a user may have. Can't we say thank you for constantly striving for improvement, and offer constructive feedback?

And while these improvements are taking place, why not avoid ranked games a few days. I heard one fella in the chat room say he'd 'lost 50 points in every type of game since the new game. I accept that perhaps this modification has not been successful for all users but consider the fact that this is a free service to you, do you have the right to call it a joke? Whens the last time you even clicked an ad?!

sorry grandad...

i was stating my point thats all, i didnt state my opinion to have a game of have it picked apart buy some sort of martyr. :|

at the end of the day its not a case of playing rank or not, as the upgrade makesgames in general too annoying and unbearable, whether it be tourny, friendly, rank.

i agree with taking time to test things, not a problem with that as long as its not a permanent change.

i hope this isnt permanent.....its very different for me! Could take me a fair while to adapt to a completly different gameplay

Im finding it very hard to play, the problem seems to be power control, has to be fixed and im sure nick will sort it.

i lost 40 points in uk and 20 points both in US. i can hardly control it. please have it fixed

Hi Nick,

Let me start with saying that the recent changes have been great and you deserve all the praise in other threads, but back to this one. I have to admit what ever you have done over the last few days have made my game go right down hill (not that it was great but..)

Problems i have found

1. The Lag message comes up when i try and hit hard and makes the balls go slow! quite a few times

2. It seems that the games is lagging all the time and previous it comes and goes, not as much as in last day or so

3. I have to change my hitting speed, sometimes its fast and other times it goes so slow i never hit ball, i seem to have to hit hard all the time

4. Might not be connected to the change but i have been booted and computer has stopped responding a lot more (in final yesterday) this might be my IP but this has happened a few times

Other changes are great so hope you find the issues as i have lots of games in clan etc.. if it cant be solved then i wont be on here as much to be honest :-(

Im all up for new changes and agree with giving you time to look into problems but have to admit if this cant imporve or be solved which i guess wont happen i would find it very hard to play this game anymore, im hoping this feed back as requested will help you

Just wanted to say that i've changed my mouse pointer speed and i'm not getting any problems at all now. It was set quite slow but i've set it to about midway now ....maybe all those having problems could give that a try and see if it helps!

m all up for new changes and agree with giving you time to look into problems but have to admit if this cant imporve or be solved which i guess wont happen i would find it very hard to play this game anymore, im hoping this feed back as requested will help you

So far Nick has set up seven Demo's, and edited the final update twice. There's no reason to think he won't 'solve' this problem, I have every confidence that it will be rectified in good time. I guess at the moment its just a case of finding a 'balance' with the new code.

It would probably be prudent to roll back the live version in the mean time tho, and use exclusively the demos for working this problem out so people won't have to deal with it live in the mean time.

Thanks to the people who kept the comments constructive.

I've put on a new version, how's this for everyone? Is the shot power too sensitive for anyone?

As a guide, the white ball should start moving at a similar rate to the cue connecting.

There is no middle ground nick.

I am on the practice table, and i can't get a medium power shot to connect, 90% of the time, its low or high power shots, nothing in the middle.

It is too sensitive for me, i was just playing and i was trying to do a medium power shot and the white rocketed off, this happened twice in 2 games causing me to lose the second game!

Yeah, its way to sensitive...... soooo powerfull. Even the guy i am playing agree's.

The guy im playing doesnt talk, so cant ask him if he agrees lol but it is far too sensitive

Yeah, dont make the balls heavier than the standard.. it took me a year to get used to the usual weight. lol. Please do something. Thanks.

I dont find a problem at all to be honest, Im probably playing better than before

Check the power bar after the shot, can you do shots at each level?

It sometimes may appear the shot is faster due to animation changes.

put the lagg detection back on please :)