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01:54 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
Now that WOULD cause controversy...
warney said:
Anyone want odds of Hamilton being promoted to win the Australian GP?
I doubt they will DQ Brawn, Williams and Toyota now as that will mean they will award Hamilton a win, and they can't do that can they?
I doubt they will DQ Brawn, Williams and Toyota now as that will mean they will award Hamilton a win, and they can't do that can they?
Now that WOULD cause controversy...
04:19 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
They wouldn't even if there were reasons to do so. We've yet to see any FIA ruling in his favor this far
warney said:
Anyone want odds of Hamilton being promoted to win the Australian GP?
I doubt they will DQ Brawn, Williams and Toyota now as that will mean they will award Hamilton a win, and they can't do that can they?
I doubt they will DQ Brawn, Williams and Toyota now as that will mean they will award Hamilton a win, and they can't do that can they?
They wouldn't even if there were reasons to do so. We've yet to see any FIA ruling in his favor this far
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04:57 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
I wonder if the Polo and Tie were disappointed that Button won the race
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06:07 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
Out of the whole race the only mistake that race control made was not penalizing Barra, he crashed into webber which took out 2 or 3 other drivers, he was wreckless because he got a bad start!
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11:48 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
Didn't someone hit him, causing him to go in to them though?
If anything he would of been done for the Kimi shunt.
I'll be surprised if Vettel isn't fined, I forgot at the time but he tried to finish the race - which of course in a broken car to that extent is against FIA rules, and was in fact rather dangerous.
I'm with Jan on the whole ruling thing. The FIA in most cases should leave them to race - unless a clear incident where you can see a driver has 'cheated' to gain an advantage (youtube Schumacher for great examples) you've got to leave the cars to go for it!
LOL on the Hamilton thing!!
If anything he would of been done for the Kimi shunt.
I'll be surprised if Vettel isn't fined, I forgot at the time but he tried to finish the race - which of course in a broken car to that extent is against FIA rules, and was in fact rather dangerous.
I'm with Jan on the whole ruling thing. The FIA in most cases should leave them to race - unless a clear incident where you can see a driver has 'cheated' to gain an advantage (youtube Schumacher for great examples) you've got to leave the cars to go for it!
LOL on the Hamilton thing!!
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12:00 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
kovy hit him from behid and shunted nhi into te redbull
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12:08 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
I'll be surprised if Vettel isn't fined, I forgot at the time but he tried to finish the race - which of course in a broken car to that extent is against FIA rules, and was in fact rather dangerous.
RBR have been fined £35,000 or somet for telling him to continue. They were fined at the same time they gave Vettel the 10 place penalty
1_eye said:
I'll be surprised if Vettel isn't fined, I forgot at the time but he tried to finish the race - which of course in a broken car to that extent is against FIA rules, and was in fact rather dangerous.
RBR have been fined £35,000 or somet for telling him to continue. They were fined at the same time they gave Vettel the 10 place penalty
12:27 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
unless a clear incident where you can see a driver has 'cheated' to gain an advantage (youtube Schumacher for great examples) you've got to leave the cars to go for it!
For example...
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1_eye said:
unless a clear incident where you can see a driver has 'cheated' to gain an advantage (youtube Schumacher for great examples) you've got to leave the cars to go for it!
For example...
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13:33 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
More newbish and ignorant mistake than the all too common, vicious attitude problems he used to demonstrate. As such, this example doesn't do him justice at all - he was much worse.
13:34 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
He got tagged from behind - and thus innocent in that crash.
nick_111 said:
Out of the whole race the only mistake that race control made was not penalizing Barra, he crashed into webber which took out 2 or 3 other drivers, he was wreckless because he got a bad start!
He got tagged from behind - and thus innocent in that crash.
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19:33 Mon 30 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
dr, remember what he did to Damon Hill in Australia in 1994? It worked in 1994, knocked Hill out, and he got away with it :|
He got DQed for that incident with Jacques Villeneuve
He got DQed for that incident with Jacques Villeneuve
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15:58 Tue 31 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
I know Mr McQuiston, but isn't it ironic that FIA only penalise Ferrari when they have lost. Why wasn't he DQed in 1994 for hitting Hill off?
Was it because it worked that time and won him the championship?
Like with Massa last season, why wasn't he penalised in Valencia, was it because he won the race? Penalised in the other race after the fuel pump wrecked his race anyway.
EDIT: When I say DQed in 1997, I mean from the overall championship, not just that race
Was it because it worked that time and won him the championship?
Like with Massa last season, why wasn't he penalised in Valencia, was it because he won the race? Penalised in the other race after the fuel pump wrecked his race anyway.
EDIT: When I say DQed in 1997, I mean from the overall championship, not just that race
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16:18 Tue 31 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
I'll be surprised if Vettel isn't fined, I forgot at the time but he tried to finish the race - which of course in a broken car to that extent is against FIA rules, and was in fact rather dangerous.
RBR have been fined £35,000 or somet for telling him to continue. They were fined at the same time they gave Vettel the 10 place penalty
I think the fine and penalty for that is fair enough, him staying out on track caused a hazzad to other drivers.
These 'small' teams have a lot to learn if they think they can pull Ferrari type stunts and get away with it!
warney said:
1_eye said:
I'll be surprised if Vettel isn't fined, I forgot at the time but he tried to finish the race - which of course in a broken car to that extent is against FIA rules, and was in fact rather dangerous.
RBR have been fined £35,000 or somet for telling him to continue. They were fined at the same time they gave Vettel the 10 place penalty
I think the fine and penalty for that is fair enough, him staying out on track caused a hazzad to other drivers.
These 'small' teams have a lot to learn if they think they can pull Ferrari type stunts and get away with it!
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16:32 Tue 31 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
He technically didn't hit hill off in 1994, Schumachers car was damaged on the side and rear wheel, Hill went in the inside, Schumy with his broken car was hit and went up on two wheels.
Schumachers fault? or Hill being a bit impatient? or maybe Schumachers car wasn't responding as well as Hills.
We'll never know.
warney said:
I know Mr McQuiston, but isn't it ironic that FIA only penalise Ferrari when they have lost. Why wasn't he DQed in 1994 for hitting Hill off?
He technically didn't hit hill off in 1994, Schumachers car was damaged on the side and rear wheel, Hill went in the inside, Schumy with his broken car was hit and went up on two wheels.
Schumachers fault? or Hill being a bit impatient? or maybe Schumachers car wasn't responding as well as Hills.
We'll never know.
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17:11 Tue 31 Mar 09 (BST) [Link]
Think the telementary shows that Schumi turned in on Hill in that incident, just like he turned in on Villeneuve
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06:43 Thu 2 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
BREAKING NEWS:
Lewis Hamilton and his McLaren team have been disqualified from the Australian Grand Prix for giving "deliberately misleading" evidence to investigating race stewards.
Lewis Hamilton and his McLaren team have been disqualified from the Australian Grand Prix for giving "deliberately misleading" evidence to investigating race stewards.
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07:08 Thu 2 Apr 09 (BST) [Link]
it keeps on getting better, hammy DQed and Trulli given back his 3rd possy, after they found hammy driving to slow are trulli had no choice but to overtake under safety car!
Edited at 12:15 Thu 2/04/09 (BST)
Edited at 12:15 Thu 2/04/09 (BST)
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