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_takeiteasy_
_takeiteasy_
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19:50 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
The results that have been played stand, the ones that havent i will sub in players lee


SL : askingfan vs blueberry (Deadline 6th sunday)

only game i would like sorted ASAP cheers


No problem

I will personally sub into this game if i havent already played


Thats ok but it was vs PD B and rules state you have to be in that team to play lol Your going to have to set up whos in what team . Its all very messy



Oh i know pal lmao
klien
klien
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19:51 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
It's extremely messy and confusing.. not to mention all the subs and everything that needs figuring out.

IMO best just removing PD completely like punkpoet wished and starting afresh next season with the Cues Brothers.. thats the best thing long-term.
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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19:58 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Oh no...I do actually agree but it's not really fair on those players who are now left stranded through no fault of their own. Would another possibility not be to completely remove PD's and their scores from the leagues already in progress but allow a new team (Cues Brothers) to be formed for the Cups instead only? (GSC and Killer)

That way no other team is messed about, everyone knows exactly where they stand and also the Cups get the full 6 teams entered as it would had Pds stayed around.

Just a suggestion.
klien
klien
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20:00 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Oh no...I do actually agree but it's not really fair on those players who are now left stranded through no fault of their own. Would another possibility not be completely remove PD's and their scores from the leagues already in progress but allow a new team to be formed for the Cups instead only? (GSC and Killer)

That way no other team is messed about, everyone knows exactly where they stand and also the Cups get the full 6 teams entered as it would had Pds stayed around.

Just a suggestion.


I'm all down for this.. This makes sense..
_takeiteasy_
_takeiteasy_
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20:03 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Oh no...I do actually agree but it's not really fair on those players who are now left stranded through no fault of their own. Would another possibility not be to completely remove PD's and their scores from the leagues already in progress but allow a new team (Cues Brothers) to be formed for the Cups instead only? (GSC and Killer)

That way no other team is messed about, everyone knows exactly where they stand and also the Cups get the full 6 teams entered as it would had Pds stayed around.

Just a suggestion.


Not everyone likes killer pal! im not trying to make it hard

Klien you say its messy its me thats doing the work not anyone else i make the subs swaps not you guys unless requested
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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20:16 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I know and respect that but not everyone likes being messed about near the end of the season and for what?

I feel sorry for all Pockets Dynamos players who have to endure all this too-ing and fro-ing but surely it makes logical sense to enter the newly customed side in a competition from its beginning than rupture ones already in play?

PDs have folded, some of their players made it clear they do not want to continue so that's their prerogative. Those who do at least with my suggestion get something to compete and participate in than just nothing.

Good Luck to Cue Brothers and I genuinely hope they get off the ground and participate next season too. (Maintain your interest and I'm sure you'll be fine)
_huts24_
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20:30 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I dont like seeing a new clan trying to complete PD fixtures, they have folded and no new team / name should take over .

I would like the results to count still if they can but that will be complicated on how lol and the Remaining matches left is another situation thats very messy ..
klien
klien
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20:34 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
So thats 3 out of 5 clans against the idea of a new clan being formed to take PD's spot mid/late season... I honestly don't mind the clan participating in the Cups, but the leagues is just too messy and frustrating with just the 1 fixture set left.

The only clan / captain openly supporting it is Uprising.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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20:39 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
End of day its down to Keith and for now has allowed Connor team to stand in for PD's, If Connor was allowed to Captain PD's then wouldn't be having this discussion. If it was me, i would probably have removed PD's already if i'm honest but if Keith wants PD's/CB's to stay then thats his choice.

Results, none would be able to stay as it would be unfair on other teams who still have games outstanding.

Regarding Clan Names being trademarked, i agree as on Snooker, i wouldn't want anyone other than me, Seb and Greg to bring D&C back and due to Dynamo's history, Zac and Angel want the same thing so i don't think anyone should bring it back without permission.

FPD - buckjam
EVO - klien
SS - dgen/seb
UPR - stu/eri
PD - zac/angel
PHO - ash/friendy
UT - mich/jayy
C8s - im crap a lot (Jay)
DFE - dee

I'm a believer that only owners should be able to fetch name back, i kept pros but was kinda forced into it really.
_takeiteasy_
_takeiteasy_
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20:40 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
we will leave it to keith to decide, either way im not fussed.
horse10000
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20:51 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
No doubt as most are aware Zac decided to fold 'pocket dynamos' last night. He then removed himself and wanted the clan removed from all competition. This is unfair on other players in his team who may wish to continue to play.

Connor has requested that he keep the clan going and was happy to give it another name so zac didn't have to see PD continuing. He was advised that for the good of the leagues i had no issues with this and he was free to ask all the Pocket Dynamos existing players and also if he found any players without clans he was welcome to include them to try and get the numbers to prevent the clan folding. I asked faust if he would be ok with me joining them until the end of the season to assist as uprising have a fairly active team and wouldn't miss my losses anyway and he was glad to see the back of me.

I have no idea how the lolumadbro scenario arose but he would never have been allowed to join unless his captain wanted to allow it to assist.

Yet again i have logged back into pool only to read pages of utter nonsense and clan players posting and stating allsorts.

I stated at the start of the season that if it continued this season that it would be my last and it seems the players who play have no consideration or respect for fellow members so i hereby announce that i will be resigning running the leagues at the end of this season. Unlike some clan players and previous runners i will not spit my dummy out, i will complete the current season. I hope that whoever replaces me is ready to put up with the nonsense. I hope that another moderator steps forward as their is several reasons why a moderator running it are advantageous to the leagues. If it is not a moderator it will be the leagues loss and you will only have yourselves to blame that is if they continue at all and don't die like snookers have.

Since i have taken over i have tried to be fair to all and mixed up the leagues so there is something for everyone and most clans can now be competitive in short format games, i do not get swayed by clan / player pressure and can remain unbiased throughout even when players accuse to the contrary.

If cues brothers get enough players from existing / new players etc then all current results will stand and all players new / existing in their clan will be allowed dispensation to be subs to complete all current fixtures. They will not be allowed any players from any other current clan unless the captain allows that player to move.
horse10000
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20:55 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
The above is to allow the leagues to continue with no interruption from a clan folding, if this then means that captains and clans are unhappy and don't want to play then that is their choice no one forces you to play clans. You can all look forward to playing again when your new runner is appointed and i can easily cut this season short to accommodate.

Thanks
horse10000
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20:57 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
End of day its down to Keith and for now has allowed Connor team to stand in for PD's, If Connor was allowed to Captain PD's then wouldn't be having this discussion. If it was me, i would probably have removed PD's already if i'm honest but if Keith wants PD's/CB's to stay then thats his choice.

Results, none would be able to stay as it would be unfair on other teams who still have games outstanding.

Regarding Clan Names being trademarked, i agree as on Snooker, i wouldn't want anyone other than me, Seb and Greg to bring D&C back and due to Dynamo's history, Zac and Angel want the same thing so i don't think anyone should bring it back without permission.

FPD - buckjam
EVO - klien
SS - dgen/seb
UPR - stu/eri
PD - zac/angel
PHO - ash/friendy
UT - mich/jayy
C8s - im crap a lot (Jay)
DFE - dee

I'm a believer that only owners should be able to fetch name back, i kept pros but was kinda forced into it really.


Players can keep trying to claim that clan names are 'theirs' but nothing is copyrighted on here and any player can start any clan in any name. I am more than happy to leave Pocket Dynamos as just that but out of respect for Zac and all the seasons he captained them i am happy to allow connor to use a new name with the same clan members + additional to survive.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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21:05 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Fine by me mate about Connors clan, i have no issues letting them continue, Sorry to see you go about running, 2nd best runner FCL has had in my view.

Sad day for leagues but know how down arguments can get you
horse10000
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21:14 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Fine by me mate about Connors clan, i have no issues letting them continue, Sorry to see you go about running, 2nd best runner FCL has had in my view.

Sad day for leagues but know how down arguments can get you


Only 2nd but it is not the arguments as people are allowed difference of opinions which can come across as arguing and if posted in a constructive manner it can actually add to the forums, it is the sniping and fabrications that people post etc. that i cant be bothered with. The forums don't need it and funkypool doesn't need it as it is bound to put people off staying and then we wonder why the site is losing members so much.
klien
klien
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21:16 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
There has to be a better way of running things, taking on board every clans views and opinions in a way that doesn't end up with people just having a go at eachother, perhaps some sort of ambassador for each clan whom stays in contact with the league runner(s) and pass on views and suggestions from the captain. Of course, the captain could be the ambassador also.

If a moderator doesn't take over for next season, I believe it's going to need two people as co-league runners to stand a chance at success...
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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21:17 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
chris has to be first, no offence

if you mean personal stuff i agree, i admit i was apart of most of it past months but not been involved recently and don't intend to be

I know Karl (Siber Man), left due to arguments which i tried to get him to stay and apologised to him but too late
_knightmare_
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21:20 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Totally respect the reason and logic with keeping PDs going all be it under a new name. Not keen on the timing and think next season would have been better though.

Hopefully now the situation has been explained whether we like it or not it's still integral to keep 6 sides going for as long as possible.

Connor keep the team PDs had and only replace those who have expressed their desire to cease playing. Approaching other existing teams players and pretty much asking for trouble will inevitably frustrate and anger others. Also if you have any requests ALL captains are approachable via offline messages.

Keith sorry to hear you are resigning come the end of this campaign. Totally respect and appreciate the time, effort & dedication you've made for us all and it'll be a shame to see you go. So thanks, let's try and finish this season on a high and who knows what the future may bring.

Past 24 hours have been shattering for clans and the site, let's make the next 24 and beyond a little more brighter by respecting one another and getting all fixtures completed by their Deadlines.

Good Luck to Cue Brothers and thanks once again Keith.
_takeiteasy_
_takeiteasy_
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22:29 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Thanks to all that have wished me and the team good luck, I will be sorting everything out both tonight before I go.to bed and tommorrow morning when I wake up thanks to all again.

Now the sad part, keith you are going to be sadly missed but all things must come to an end I wish you all the best in the future and thanks again for.not only all the hard work you have done for not just clans but the game in general! Also thanks for sticking with me until the end of the season!!
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22:52 Fri 4 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
A warning was given by horse1000 and use all failed to listen.

Now there will be another argument about who should run the leagues next season if there is one.

Will the next runner be willing to put up with all this i'm not so sure.But i have privately cast my vote to the one i'd like to be next.

Keith mate fair play to you for putting in so much work and giving up your time to run a fair league for all to enjoy. Thank you mate.
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