If only someone would mention it...

Didn't you have some sort of similar idea a few years back?

Discussions are on hold now, we do need to see if a change is actually wanted before we can decide what to change.

Not me mate, I have never mentioned it before.

I have noticed that a few people want the SL racks put back up to 4 each, but I kinda like that it is more random. You would think that over the course of the fixture the correct winner still prevails.
But I like the concept of more random results in the SL.

The SL shouldnt be 2 racks each and be an official clan league. Thats the kind of format for a league in pool events forum.

Bit of a mixed one for me, I like it being back to the original format because it works very well as what it is intended to be. Though I do think the short format doesn't leave much room for errors to be corrected. I'm happy with how it is, seeing as it keeps the variety.

An event that was probably run very well

For someone like me, given the shorter amount of frames, I look forward to playing a harder opponents, because if I start off very well, then I could have it wrapped up before my oppo gets into the groove.

It gives the underdogs something to fight for, but I think if you look at the tables, not too many 'team' shocks have happened, just the odd player shock lol

In regards to SL, you should ask the less successful teams. The format has been tweaked to enhance their chances of winning sonething. If they however, like most players in the top 3 teams, prefer the 12 frame format - then we should revert.

I reckon we should just flip a coin and determine a winner that way

the__priest this is the place to discuss potential changes to the league Criag :)

FBL will be a joke next season
how does any one accept defaults
as acceptable

I don't think that is decided. He was just putting it out there for opinions.

I don't like the idea of 'no subs' either.
A league like that would be more about: Which team has the most reliable players?
Rather than: Which team can play the best funkypool?

About defaults being easier to score in FBL because of the limited options up for decision, that may be so, but it doesn't lessen the potential problem that default can cause, or the likelihood of it causing one. It only means decisions would be easier on the decision-maker.
What I'm saying is, defaults stand just as much chance of hurting the FBL's integrity as they do in any other league.

I'm all for a trial season with 'limited subs', but I don't see the point in ruining one league for a season with a trial of something (no subs) that we know wouldn't work. It would simply cause too many defaults.

Edited at 02:41 Fri 30/01/15 (GMT)

truly I've been playing clan pool
since 06

these have to be the best fairest leagues ever
next to no defaults

something leagues have strived for, for years

and the people want change

same people moaning about everything

I've never seen anything like it before
ooopz I have when non paying members changed micros
not forgetting they don't play them and next to none of them play in tournaments (something lost on baff)

Chris you've done a great job
for gods sake put your foot down and don't bow down to the same people who have wrecked clan pool for seasons

same people think they run clan pool
it was going well before most of these people where even here

moan moan
lets panic give the fools what they want

NO
its the best its ever been and that zante is a fact

defaults at the lowest ever
some leagues are competitive
and they still cry

this is what is killing funkypool

get on with it
wreck it again and back down to the usual suspects

egos win again

I saw a suggestion a few pages back about adding 2 bonus points to FBL for each team fixture win.
Please, no!
SL already scores on team fixtures, and FCL already gives similar bonus points to the frame count, FBL is the only league that's truly different there (in that the result of just one team fixture means nothing). All that matters is the indiv matches, against every other team, tallied together as a team, throughout the whole season.
That's what I think the FCL should do too, drop the bonus points. Then we'd have 3 totally different leagues. One soley about team fixture wins, one soley about indiv match wins, and one soley about frame/game wins.

I'm happy enough though with no change, since chris agreed to implement a "Frame Wins Shield", to be awarded under the circumstance that frame count would've chosen a different winner than the system we're using in FCL.

Edited at 02:58 Fri 30/01/15 (GMT)

The whole subs/swaps topic is not the issue it's just a vessel to try and isolate those who they blame are ruining the site or clans. When really they aren't doing anything in breach of the 'unlimited rules'. It's just easier to criticize when they are perfectly entitled to facilitate the 'unlimited subs rules' themselves.

So what i will say is 'be careful what you wish/vote for' as it'll return to haunt you when it's pretty satisfactory and helpful as it currently is. More teams need to not be so concerned about acting (ie subbing out a friend) just put them in another match when necessary, so no one suffers.

I don't alter the whole lineups, subs are a tool to assist with getting matches complete, it also enables and increases FLEXIBILITY. It shouldn't matter who and how many - as long as the team you represent applies as much effort in keeping to their deadlines.

I'd NEVER alter the whole lineup - regardless if limited or unlimited. Ensuring the randomness is kept, is better for all teams and the integrity of the Leagues - but subs have and will be required at some point. Would be great if they weren't and none were made BUT that's just not being realistic.

Edited at 03:07 Fri 30/01/15 (GMT)

When it comes down to it, none of the more competitive teams generally have any problems with defaults because the majority of them, if not all, are very good players who are here on funky regularly.
So to me it would be the lesser teams who will suffer due to inactivity and, dare I say it, lack of enthusiasm??

I know there aren't enough teams but I think ideally 2 divisions would show a difference

deleted - said enough

Edited at 03:44 Fri 30/01/15 (GMT)

I don't think subs are a major issue at all, I agree with Craig that the leagues are better than ever with the ease at which games get played, if we could tweak it very slightly without ruining that to eliminate tactical subs then fair enough but it definitely shouldn't be pulled apart.
I do think if we could give everyone in the league something to play for in FCL it would be better, like in Super League the extra knockout phases adds something at the end of a season.
I'd like to see FCL stay the same, still crown the champions on points scored but then split into 2 mini leagues based on league positions for an extra competition at the end.

hes holding a vote. Vote no. All this drivel about bowing down when it's the majority that will decide. The majority seem to want change......because of your clan.

Lol calm down son your going end up giving yourself an heart attack, you don't do much moaning yourself do you Craig.....

Half of Pocket Dynamos have said yes to changes, even an admin has, are they the people you mean who never stop moaning....