Because the trial wont actually be used, it would be clearly unfair craig.

It will see if the team of people can come to a fair agreement and see where it goes from there.

No wonder things rarely change on here, the amount of backlash you get for trying to do something.

I have not said the system is perfect, but at least if this system was in use last set craig, your team would have got more points.

On another note

I've looked through eagles team list, active players
They will struggle in this fixture set also to get games played barring a small
Miracle

Gordo inactive
Paul PC
Frog PC
King Joffrey deactivated
Bradenton forest offline 15 days

Need I say more

They need help and fast
I'd suggest they are allowed to sign some players as an emergency situation
Or this team will either fold or have more mass defaults
They simply don't have a big enough active squad

Just a suggestion but this really does need addressing

This new system will enable a player to achieve the amount of points that they were likely to achieve anyways, if they made all the effort.

Anyways, lets just see how it goes.

Theyv havent got an active captain to sign them

This isn't about my default at all it's about the system being used it's flawed

Yours is also flawed in the same way as my example shows

Just do it the old way

What's was wrong with it compared to the current system and the one being proposed

It may not have been perfect but it's way better than the current or proposed
This needs a remedy

Look at the other default I high lighted, let's get this straight to this isn't about my default the team had 3
Mbzz were also not to blame in any of the 3 for not getting the games played

So when ash or any other team say we don't get them neither do MBz we didn't cause them in anyway

Also

How can you predict a score between me and frog
He wasn't there to play he made no effort at all hence zero points

You cannot predict a score for someone who was technically not there to start with

This has been rushed again with no forethought for possible outcomes

When the FCL was introduced it was talked about planned implemented and tweaked as it went, the clue is there planned

This option was on a whim yesterday
Just go back to how it was for this season

Then discuss plan and implement at the start of next season
That surely is common sense

And saying I would've got more points or wade with 1 out of 15 is clearly an under statement

Woah, Craig, go back to your tree. (Joke)

Any system that caters for defaults, is flawed.
Every game should be played, therefore no need for defaults.

But we don't live in an ideal world, so defaults have been asked to be catered for.

A system which solely relies on effort made is flawed for many reasons.

Defaults happen and do need to be catered for in all sports sorry that's a fact

Evidence based defaults is what we have

Another example for you to ponder
King Joffrey a deactivated player in fixtures now
Say it goes to default
Lmao possible prediction
the player doesn't even exist

Any player deactivating during a fixture
should be put on a month re-qualifying period another topic sorry

I'm sorry here I've stated about planning and whims

It's falling on deaf ears
You can't predict an outcome for any player who makes no effort to play
How could you predict any score ? the player wasn't there in the first place
It's ok I guess when 2players make an effort
But the old system catered for that.anyway so nothing new there

So your system really covers players only being 10O% at fault
So you start at a predicted score
It's flawed simple
The player to blame can't have a predicted score

As politely as I can say this, please stand down.

At least give this a trial, obviously if a player makes no effort no play a game, then they will be awarded 0, so why punish the other player who tried to play?

This way I am trying to give them a fair result.

But until you take your blinkers off, it is clear I am talking to a brick wall.

10-5 pro_frog. See wasn't too hard to predict what score I think you two would have had.

Craig, we will be having a member from each team to hopefully give their thoughts on what the score would have been from the match, if it had have played through normal circumstances.

I know this may not be accurate, but at least it gives at least a fair outcome.

You had your chance, now let me have mine.

its the same as the old system whats new

youve not suggested anywhere that a player gets zero points

if a player that makes no effort they will be awarded zero as you've just stated
whats new that your bringing to the table ???

the old system works on evidence based defaults
and the default panel predict the score where both players have made effort and predict a score on that sorry your offering nothing new it exists already in the old way

zero points for not playing or making no effort already exists
in the old system

so please explain what your now offering that is any different to the old system

the default panel look at the presented facts and predict an outcome the average of the outcomes then becomes the final default score

im now baffled as to what your suggesting its the same as the old way

no blinkers required talk to anyone who has done defaults prior to this, its the way it has always been done

it was only a few seasons ago that jay decided not to have full representation from all clans on the default panel

so based on your prediction
frog is way better than turtle and nerdzz
really

Well if I'm asked for default info on a match between them we will find out. You might get one more ore lose by one more but 10-5 is a fair reflection of abilities.

are you just going to keep moaning till they scrap it

on the default website this is how it would work

the league runner would post all information supplied
(id also look at threads because players could be inactive or ill or on holiday) it was unfair to disregard this information as other default panelists would

you were then given 2 days to sort it out

arrive in your opinion on who was to blame and award scores out of 15
and explain how you arrived at your conclusion

if 5 panelists posted a score the scores would be added up
and the average used as a default score

i dont see what your offering that is new to this

Craig, I have told the people that matter the extent to what the rules apply to.

I shall break it down into basic chat,

Default happens, say between me and maverick.

Every member from the default panel (bar the wolf and ps representative) will predict the score that they think would happen.

The average of those scores will be taken, say 9-6 to maverick.

Then the runners will look at how much effort was put into play the game, so say mav made no effort, but i tried and tried, they will take all of mav's points off him, but leave mine.

So i still get the 6 i most likely would have done, but mav gets 0, for not trying.

If both tried a bit, then points can be taken off both, but if both tried hard, the default score reflects what could have happened if the game had have played.

Seems like he is trying mate.

I have 8 people on board so far, from 8 different teams. So not far off.

its the FCL discussion forum
its a topic being discussed

keep up the mischief joe
or have you anything constructive to offer

That's the issue, you can't see it. As a previous example used was the case and kera made an effort to play do but dvz didn't and a default score of 15-0 was applied, would kera EVER get a 15-0 against him if they played, no. Therefore a default score could warp the outcome of the league. Im not saying it's good, I'm not saying it's bad, but it not hard to understand when you have something under the hood.