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14:20 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
un practical but derik you do make me laugh pal if only a.
Neither system works he deserves more than four but wouldn't have got fifteen. Got to say here though pirate tried to be fair but it hasn't really done monkeys much good
I say boot eagles. Get John to run tfs . Get Shadwell to run phoenix and defaults and arguing will cut by eighty percent over night
I say boot eagles. Get John to run tfs . Get Shadwell to run phoenix and defaults and arguing will cut by eighty percent over night
un practical but derik you do make me laugh pal if only a.
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14:21 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
LOL
Not Surprised with this stupid post.
Neither system works he deserves more than four but wouldn't have got fifteen. Got to say here though pirate tried to be fair but it hasn't really done monkeys much good
I say boot eagles. Get John to run tfs . Get Shadwell to run phoenix and defaults and arguing will cut by eighty percent over night
I say boot eagles. Get John to run tfs . Get Shadwell to run phoenix and defaults and arguing will cut by eighty percent over night
LOL
Not Surprised with this stupid post.
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14:22 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Right...
but with this system people will play for default to affect league where with old system no one knew what it would be as all threads are read and a decision is mad on what we see example if no subs no comunication and player been ofline for 14 days opp player been on every day and sent 5 messages why should they not get a 15-0 only fair
So awarding a team a team 45 points on defaults when they have only scored 20 points from the other 5 games would be fair and make for a more accurate league table?
so rewarding one team more than another on a similar default isnt either
Why not?
If, for example, T.F.S. had been in this situation and had scored 50 points from those 5 games - It wouldn't be unreasonable to award them 10 points in each of the defaults.
The idea is to compensate the team to what they would have most likely achieved.
Based on the completed matches, Monkey Business would have scored around 12 points (there or there abouts) from the remaining 3 matches.
allways made a more accurate league table
Right...
but with this system people will play for default to affect league where with old system no one knew what it would be as all threads are read and a decision is mad on what we see example if no subs no comunication and player been ofline for 14 days opp player been on every day and sent 5 messages why should they not get a 15-0 only fair
So awarding a team a team 45 points on defaults when they have only scored 20 points from the other 5 games would be fair and make for a more accurate league table?
so rewarding one team more than another on a similar default isnt either
Why not?
If, for example, T.F.S. had been in this situation and had scored 50 points from those 5 games - It wouldn't be unreasonable to award them 10 points in each of the defaults.
The idea is to compensate the team to what they would have most likely achieved.
Based on the completed matches, Monkey Business would have scored around 12 points (there or there abouts) from the remaining 3 matches.
14:24 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
2 of our best players hadnt played
so why not
again i say based on the working out
8 games go to default the average is zero
then what happens
so why not
again i say based on the working out
8 games go to default the average is zero
then what happens
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14:26 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Right...
but with this system people will play for default to affect league where with old system no one knew what it would be as all threads are read and a decision is mad on what we see example if no subs no comunication and player been ofline for 14 days opp player been on every day and sent 5 messages why should they not get a 15-0 only fair
So awarding a team a team 45 points on defaults when they have only scored 20 points from the other 5 games would be fair and make for a more accurate league table?
it would depend on evidence as i said if there a situation of no cumincation or subs and offline 14 days then how can u not award 15-0 but there does have to evidence that the otherteam have been asking for subs ect.
if there no eveidence then the panel would look at average scores of season and results and make decision on average they think like 9-6 or 8-7 ect
You are contradicting yourself massively.
Defaults should not affect the table yet we should award 15-0s when 100% of the effort has been made, even in a case where a team hasn't scored 15 points from the other 7 matches?
No evidence provided = use an average result, yet evidence provided from one team = 0 points for the other.
....huh?
allways made a more accurate league table
Right...
but with this system people will play for default to affect league where with old system no one knew what it would be as all threads are read and a decision is mad on what we see example if no subs no comunication and player been ofline for 14 days opp player been on every day and sent 5 messages why should they not get a 15-0 only fair
So awarding a team a team 45 points on defaults when they have only scored 20 points from the other 5 games would be fair and make for a more accurate league table?
it would depend on evidence as i said if there a situation of no cumincation or subs and offline 14 days then how can u not award 15-0 but there does have to evidence that the otherteam have been asking for subs ect.
if there no eveidence then the panel would look at average scores of season and results and make decision on average they think like 9-6 or 8-7 ect
You are contradicting yourself massively.
Defaults should not affect the table yet we should award 15-0s when 100% of the effort has been made, even in a case where a team hasn't scored 15 points from the other 7 matches?
No evidence provided = use an average result, yet evidence provided from one team = 0 points for the other.
....huh?
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14:26 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Right...
but with this system people will play for default to affect league where with old system no one knew what it would be as all threads are read and a decision is mad on what we see example if no subs no comunication and player been ofline for 14 days opp player been on every day and sent 5 messages why should they not get a 15-0 only fair
So awarding a team a team 45 points on defaults when they have only scored 20 points from the other 5 games would be fair and make for a more accurate league table?
so rewarding one team more than another on a similar default isnt either
Why not?
If, for example, T.F.S. had been in this situation and had scored 50 points from those 5 games - It wouldn't be unreasonable to award them 10 points in each of the defaults.
The idea is to compensate the team to what they would have most likely achieved.
Based on the completed matches, Monkey Business would have scored around 12 points (there or there abouts) from the remaining 3 matches.
i see what u saying and to a certain extent agree BUT that gives team the chance to affect the leagues i could play for defaults to stop a team winning,
MAYBE we should look at a way a team in trouble can use players that are less than month reg maybe reduce to 2 weeks
allways made a more accurate league table
Right...
but with this system people will play for default to affect league where with old system no one knew what it would be as all threads are read and a decision is mad on what we see example if no subs no comunication and player been ofline for 14 days opp player been on every day and sent 5 messages why should they not get a 15-0 only fair
So awarding a team a team 45 points on defaults when they have only scored 20 points from the other 5 games would be fair and make for a more accurate league table?
so rewarding one team more than another on a similar default isnt either
Why not?
If, for example, T.F.S. had been in this situation and had scored 50 points from those 5 games - It wouldn't be unreasonable to award them 10 points in each of the defaults.
The idea is to compensate the team to what they would have most likely achieved.
Based on the completed matches, Monkey Business would have scored around 12 points (there or there abouts) from the remaining 3 matches.
i see what u saying and to a certain extent agree BUT that gives team the chance to affect the leagues i could play for defaults to stop a team winning,
MAYBE we should look at a way a team in trouble can use players that are less than month reg maybe reduce to 2 weeks
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14:27 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
You can't introduce players ability into the default decision because that is too subjective to classify.
For example, one runner may rate you highly whereas I may not rate you at all.
2 of our best players hadnt played
so why not
again i say based on the working out
8 games go to default the average is zero
then what happens
so why not
again i say based on the working out
8 games go to default the average is zero
then what happens
You can't introduce players ability into the default decision because that is too subjective to classify.
For example, one runner may rate you highly whereas I may not rate you at all.
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14:28 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
As I've said a few times now, Eagles position in the league will be looked at if they cause more defaults.
14:28 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Seriously i dont know how Eagles are still competing in the leagues (especially in FCL)
FCL 6 fixtures 12 defaults which means out of 6 fixtures they played only 4 and half of them.
FBL 3 fixtures 3 defaults so far.
FCL 6 fixtures 12 defaults which means out of 6 fixtures they played only 4 and half of them.
FBL 3 fixtures 3 defaults so far.
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14:30 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
Defaults are a support mechanism, scrap that. IF you make them too accommodating then that will encourage teams not to actually try to get all matches played. A default should work as penalizing a team for not completing ALL their matches. A deduction of points instead of gratifying an error or misjudgement. The deduction be based upon what information has been submitted but some points be deducted regardless. (Just another view point)
14:30 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
You can't introduce players ability into the default decision because that is too subjective to classify.
For example, one runner may rate you highly whereas I may not rate you at all.
Is that an example Steve or a statement
2 of our best players hadnt played
so why not
again i say based on the working out
8 games go to default the average is zero
then what happens
so why not
again i say based on the working out
8 games go to default the average is zero
then what happens
You can't introduce players ability into the default decision because that is too subjective to classify.
For example, one runner may rate you highly whereas I may not rate you at all.
Is that an example Steve or a statement
14:32 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
going no where at all
ive made my point its flawed
8 games unplayed zero
teams being rewarded more in a similar default is ludicrous
a team making all the acknowledged effort is laughed at
i will say no more
ive made my point its flawed
8 games unplayed zero
teams being rewarded more in a similar default is ludicrous
a team making all the acknowledged effort is laughed at
i will say no more
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14:33 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
You can't introduce players ability into the default decision because that is too subjective to classify.
For example, one runner may rate you highly whereas I may not rate you at all.
but with a default panel that would average out,
anyway i still say for years the prob is in the running of team and the able to make a team at a whim or manage a team i think we should cap the amount of teams in league so plenty of players to go round and want to play might make it smaller but would stop defaults.
2 of our best players hadnt played
so why not
again i say based on the working out
8 games go to default the average is zero
then what happens
so why not
again i say based on the working out
8 games go to default the average is zero
then what happens
You can't introduce players ability into the default decision because that is too subjective to classify.
For example, one runner may rate you highly whereas I may not rate you at all.
but with a default panel that would average out,
anyway i still say for years the prob is in the running of team and the able to make a team at a whim or manage a team i think we should cap the amount of teams in league so plenty of players to go round and want to play might make it smaller but would stop defaults.
14:34 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
LOL
Not Surprised with this stupid post.
I bet the soloution would work. Captains need to solve the problems you and huts cause them
Neither system works he deserves more than four but wouldn't have got fifteen. Got to say here though pirate tried to be fair but it hasn't really done monkeys much good
I say boot eagles. Get John to run tfs . Get Shadwell to run phoenix and defaults and arguing will cut by eighty percent over night
I say boot eagles. Get John to run tfs . Get Shadwell to run phoenix and defaults and arguing will cut by eighty percent over night
LOL
Not Surprised with this stupid post.
I bet the soloution would work. Captains need to solve the problems you and huts cause them
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14:34 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
I'l say it one last time....
Eagles are hanging on by the skin of their teeth.
They have had the highest number of defaults which isn't helped by the fact that they have sent in no team sheets for the last 4 fixture sets across the three leagues.
Even one more default and their position will be looked at.
Eagles are hanging on by the skin of their teeth.
They have had the highest number of defaults which isn't helped by the fact that they have sent in no team sheets for the last 4 fixture sets across the three leagues.
Even one more default and their position will be looked at.
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14:35 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
I definitely think that the team who hasn't made much effort in getting games completed, should be penalised and have points deducted. That way, they actually lose something rather than getting away with a few points awarded to the other team.
However, you'll get some clans, who will try and use this to their advantage (as you already do) by constantly posting and spamming threads asking for subs with a week in the fixture left to play.
However, you'll get some clans, who will try and use this to their advantage (as you already do) by constantly posting and spamming threads asking for subs with a week in the fixture left to play.
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14:35 Tue 25 Mar 14 (GMT) [Link]
But deducting point does nothing to help the team who tried to get games played.
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