8UK on US Table

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16:05 Sat 27 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I completely agree with Niall however I think the uk table does need one change and that is the middle pocket to go deeper into the table so you can't roll down the cushion and pot.

Other than that there is no problem I see.
bluenose1872
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16:08 Sat 27 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I completely agree with Niall however I think the uk table does need one change and that is the middle pocket to go deeper into the table so you can't roll down the cushion and pot.

Other than that there is no problem I see.


100% agree, i think it would change the out come in some games. Flukes in UK seem to go to the middle bag more than the corners i think so having the pocket deeper would rule that out. Corner pockets are way to far out to but nothing can be perfect
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16:16 Sat 27 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
If you played most of the top lads from quite a few years back, I don't think you would be calling the game easy! Potting the balls is very easy fair enough, but I find it just as easy on the US tables so I don't see how UK's any easier in that sense.

How do you know I haven't....?

And you've pretty much summed up what I was trying to say - But yeah reclining the middle pockets would be good enough to making it acceptable for now
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16:16 Sat 27 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah I agree, the middle pockets are silly, act like a vacuum as soon as a ball enters their vicinity lol. I think all the pockets need to be modernised and given jaws just like on the us tables, instead of just round pockets.
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16:17 Sat 27 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I completely agree with Niall however I think the uk table does need one change and that is the middle pocket to go deeper into the table so you can't roll down the cushion and pot.

Other than that there is no problem I see.


i agree with this, also i think that the pockets need to be a little tougher, it makes clearances too easy when you can change the angle at which you pot by so much that you can get so many different angles to develop balls that positioning doesn't need to be amazing. you can force angles too much imo. i do enjoy uk but the way the table is anyone can beat anyone.
temptation
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17:42 Sat 27 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
guessing this was posted as you got beat on the uk table a few times from silly shots soo now thay should change it :) lol

would you off still started this topic if u got 5 run outs in a row nooo the table would be perfect then

why make it like 8 us lol then your jst playing 8 us with a 2 shot carry noo tables should change

jst points and tourneys :)
angry_bacon
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14:16 Sun 28 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
guessing this was posted as you got beat on the uk table a few times from silly shots soo now thay should change it :) lol

would you off still started this topic if u got 5 run outs in a row nooo the table would be perfect then

why make it like 8 us lol then your jst playing 8 us with a 2 shot carry noo tables should change

jst points and tourneys :)


I guess this is aimed at me.. I don't make posts like this because I lose, I've always felt this way about 8UK. And before you can say something like ''Well if you don't like it, don't play it'', that would be hard considering everyone has to play it in one of the leagues, I'm not going to just play it in the league and not any other time, because I will be out of practice. And it wouldn't matter how many run outs I did/didn't get, I still would of posted this eventually.

And the last part of your post, if the tables were the same we wouldn't just be playing '8US with a 2-shot carry', it's the game and the rules that make the 2 types different, not the table. By which I mean they would still be totally different games if the two tables were identical.
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18:18 Mon 29 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
The tables are hardly realistic at all lol...if the UK table was to change to how the US tables are the site would die a miserable death, it always has and always will be the most popular game on the site!

Its the most popular because its possibly the easiest game of pool on here.
I agree with angry to slam a ball down a cushion and its swollowed in the middle really is a bit stupid...if your going to create something thats enjoyable at least create something more realistic.
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19:35 Mon 29 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Exactly, so why change it? That's hardly gonna encourage more people to come play let alone keep the dwindling number of existing members satisfied. It's been this way since day 1, bar the odd minor makeover, and always should be. If you want a realistic game of pool, go down to your local pool hall
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22:43 Mon 29 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
The pockets are just big circles sticking out and covering what looks like the pocketless cushion in Carom! Where are the angled edges?! And you can easily pot balls into the side pockets just about anywhere because of their exposure by about half their diameter. Its appearance is far from pathetically ridiculous. And may I say, since I returned to funkypool and funkysnooker after my departure in 2009, I have come to an opinion this whole game is outdated.
bluenose1872
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00:13 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It was out dated in 2009, there has been hardly any change except for the tables a tiny little bit.

You have came to that opinion but you still sign in and play
dgeneratio
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00:26 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Been asked for 100's of times previously and the table has never been changed, it seems it is the one thing that cannot change!!!. Some seem to love the fact it is so wrong, me personally i dislike uk as i find the table a joke and if it was changed to a more realistic one i may play it more who knows.

same here however i think it was janmb (i could be wrong) who said that each table has its own unique abilities. Even though i dislike UK (the 2 shot carry rule more than anything as people tend not to pot but tap instead) i don't think the table should change at all as UK is a different table to the US ones. Sure its easier to pot but so is the US tables to be fair. If any of you play Original Snooker you will know you can't touch the cushion when potting otherwise 8/10 the ball will rattle. In US that figure is a bit less but still tight, possibly 4/10 and in UK it won't rattle unless you hit a corner jaw.

I think the table is fine and the table is what makes UK different to the other tables, if it was changed to US you may as well call it US (even if its reds and yellows, it has similarities except the Ball must hit a cushion (US) and 2 shot carry (UK)).

Keep the table i say and not because i like it but because different size tables are good (Arcade, Regular and Original is a good example as even though its same table, Original is most difficult to pot)
zantetsukenz
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00:34 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
The tables are hardly realistic at all lol...if the UK table was to change to how the US tables are the site would die a miserable death, it always has and always will be the most popular game on the site!

Its the most popular because its possibly the easiest game of pool on here.
I agree with angry to slam a ball down a cushion and its swollowed in the middle really is a bit stupid...if your going to create something thats enjoyable at least create something more realistic.


Arcade games are far easier than 8UK, It's unique and adds variety. There's no point having another 8 ball game type if there's no noticable difference.

To me that is the complete opposite of what nick should do - if he wants to make it realistic, it should at least be enjoyable. That's like saying you don't care if you enjoy playing the game as long as it's like real life.
dgeneratio
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00:36 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
The tables are hardly realistic at all lol...if the UK table was to change to how the US tables are the site would die a miserable death, it always has and always will be the most popular game on the site!

Its the most popular because its possibly the easiest game of pool on here.
I agree with angry to slam a ball down a cushion and its swollowed in the middle really is a bit stupid...if your going to create something thats enjoyable at least create something more realistic.


Arcade games are far easier than 8UK, It's unique and adds variety. There's no point having another 8 ball game type if there's no noticable difference.

To me that is the complete opposite of what nick should do - if he wants to make it realistic, it should at least be enjoyable. That's like saying you don't care if you enjoy playing the game as long as it's like real life.

Agreed, If you want realism go on http://www.flyordie.com
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01:04 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Personally, I think the tables are fine, but I did notice after the last update to the table, when the us tables went to black pockets, it made it easier to pot for some reason.

As for the uk table, its unrealistic, but as someone else said, if you want realistic, play real pool lol. The spin is not very true on these tables, and some of the shots that can be pulled off, would never happen in real life.

Everyone has to accept that the tables are not 100% true reflections of real life tables, but a fun online game, well most of the time.
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16:24 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  

You have came to that opinion but you still sign in and play


Yeah, I come to play here because I like this small community of somewhat 15,000 people and there are tournaments all the time. And the fact it's 'outdated' is fine by me because it takes me back somehow! (Reminds me of old school computers...)

I think I left just before the end of times when the balls simply disappeared when they fell into the pockets rather than sliding down like they do now.

If I had it my way I would label the current 8 Ball Billiards UK table as an Arcade version, with a separate 8UK table designed like the 8US but with the red and yellow balls, green frame UK rules and slightly thinner cushions. Go compare funky's with real UK pool tables elsewhere on the internet. You'll notice there are jaws around the pockets.

Edited at 13:27 Tue 30/07/13 (BST)
angry_bacon
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17:04 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Why are people going on that it isn't doesn't need to be realistic? Of course it needs to be as realistic as possible, especially the tables. The only things that should differentiate funky from real pool, are the small things like not being able to put backspin when the cue ball is tight on the cushion, touching balls etc. but these things can't be done on here, and that's fine. They are the things that are stopping it being like real life. The tables should make sense. If it isn't meant to be realistic then why don't they have a net on them, or a couple of tyres that you have to hit balls through, or a black hole in the middle (oh wait, UK table has some).

But back to UK being on US tables, couple of people saying it will be the same as US with a couple of different rules; it won't be, it'll still be a totally different game just played on a table that looks the same. Maybe the pockets could be a little wider on it, or the table be a bit bigger, but as long as it makes a bit more sense then it doesn't really matter.
angry_bacon
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17:06 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I think it should be trialled in the very least
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17:42 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Said keep the 8uk table as it is but implement a newer versions just to see which one is preferred. (Trial basis only) with the 8us template sort of - not to the same dimensions though.

This site will get busier if new things were introduced,
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20:24 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
To be honest, I think this game has got too much of the funky factor to be realistic! But yes, the tables should be appropriate. Well said, angry_bacon. He is angry - and don't call him Shirley.

My idea of a separate table is worth a trial, but I suppose, yes, the game will be a step closer to an overkill. I suggested this because, if the table changed it could jumble up ratings and scores and may or may not be appropriate enough to reset scores. Only suggesting an idea, though.

If anyone wants to get the realism factor, go play other games. My two suggestions are Fly Or Die or, if you still want something easy, try out Miniclip's 8 Ball Pool.

Edited at 17:34 Tue 30/07/13 (BST)
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