What this scoring sysem does, to an extent, is allow players to treat each game type as a fresh start.

No it doesn't, that what you want people to think, if you just played 8US and had lost 4-0 and they also had a run out, you would be thinking oh crap how am I going to come back from 7-0?

Never mentioned the one point thing, that is one i do like though.

By simply winning the remaining two disciplines 3-1 (with no run outs/gbs for either player)

Thats 6 out of 8 racks or 75% of them.

In FCL you could win 3-2 and 4-1 and still lose overall from 5-0 down (as I said before).

The only way to turn around an FCL game is to win at least 8 of the remaining 10 racks which is 80%.

75% is easier to achieve than 80% regardless of whether its me just saying it. It was the same in Super League, you had to win more disciplines than your opponent to win an overall match (leaving aside event bonuses).

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Not sure where the FCL has to be named in all of this...

From your example of it though, it is more than possible that the player that wins in the FCL game deserves to win. Way it goes, its online pool not life and death.

My main concern on the overall bonuses here that some players are going to get annoyed at getting thumped a possible 25 - 1 most of the time. How is that even considered fun.

This will never happen most of the time as anyone who has played the site will know and i am sure you do as well jay

Anyone who achieves it will fully deserve it but as a betting man i would bet a lot of money that no one will achieve it

I said possible for a reason as that is the top score you can get. I would also bet on no one getting it, well maybe one a season if you are lucky enough to play really when on game day.

Fact remains though how is that considered fun for any average or lower than average clan player and some high ones to.

FCL mentioned because I was justifying why the win bonuses exist.

Of course it is a matter of opinion in what constitutes the 'better player' winning. Yours is that it is the person that wins the most racks out of 15 regardless of whether they may only specialise in one game type which they can win 5-0 each time then stumble through the other two game types to win at least 3 racks - maybe even with a lucky run out of GB?

Or mine where a player has to beat his opponent in more of the game types to be regarded as the better player.

Last time for me on the 25-1 scenario. The size of the score is irrelevant. I think we need zante on here as he appreciates that point from his posts that I have seen.

You example makes no sense, the same principle can be applied in TCL too, just different numbers.

Using the 7-0 i said before, you can still win overall but would have to win both the other two game types. Even a 3-1 win and a draw will leave you 10-9 with no 'events'

I think you are trying to justify something that does nothing but penalise the lesser talented clans.

No point, im going on PS3

Thanks thats my point exactly. If you win the remaining two game types you are guaranteed to win overall (leaving aside the unknown variables - event bonuses). Winning more game types than your opponent guarantees you win overall (leaving aside the unknown variables - event bonuses) !!

In FCL winning the remaining two game types does not guarantee you a win overall.

If you are 5-0 down in FCL and you come back 5-0 or 4-1 in the other two game types you still win.

The point isn't about winning game types and winning overall, it is about only rewarding for the skill you show on the day = frame wins, which is what people like.

Concocting a system where you need to accumulate 4 different point variations in order to obtain a win is waaaay OTT.

the season has started, either way it dosnt matter
the scoring system is there, we as captains have to work with it

to be fair there are points both for an against, but as in FSL we got on with it and it worked brilliantly

and the point about 5-0 down in FCL i have played lesser players or unlucky players who have gone on to get killed, because they give up

the reward by the players team m8s is well done for seeing the game out, wow what an accolade, bet that comment helped the players confidence

at least with this format a player can say ive a chance come on he may still crumble

In FCL, but ive seen it so many times and the players just want to deacivate afterwards, its happened more than once

however nothing says tht wont happen here either

but its here we get on with it
good luck all

Ah Craig but the FSL was a brilliant league and I will not dispute that, I just feel that this league is over rewarding with its bonuses.

I lost 15-0 to mattywellie in FCL last season which was absolutely appauling play by myself, but I would rather 15-0 than 19-1 which is the equivalent in this league.

But as my husband just pointed out I am fighting a losing battle, it is clearly the mod squads way and there is no room for my opinion here.

Good luck!

its started not alot anybody can do now

only time will tell


look at it like i do with an open mind, every change is like a stone being thrown into a pond

there is no tidal wave, lets see how it pans out and have trust in those who have organised it,

just my humble oppinion

i just played my first game enjoyed it scoring was ok just totted up as went along but only thing i see no need for is the 1 pt for compleating game as it given to both so if all 8 played both teams get 8 each if 7 7 each so i dont favor anyone and just fill it a pointless addition to remember to add on

but overall ok

If you find it too confusing just post the game scores, we will work out the bonus points, no biggie

incase of a default kenny

it would count

ok no problem it just going take time for players and captains to double check scores but i like the format and idea i was 5-2 up and it made games more open i enjoyed.

if its for defaults then i accept the humble point lol

i think could be a great league.

with some shock results

This is season one and already people aren't giving the format a go everyone is entitled to their opinion but please give it a chance and for some games to get played but completely flooring this league!!!

Remember other clan leagues have taken 18 seasons+ with a number of different runners and support to get where it is today

I personally think there will be some really close games but lets see how it pans out

Thank you, but a fair few hated it as well. All about opinions.



Again,15-0 or 19-1 is irrelevant. Back to my original post on 0.5 points per item instead of 1? Is a 9.5 - 0.5 defeat better?



Always welcome constructive input from everyone.