and wheres the enjoyment in playing in clans than, if everyday captains make swaps or subs?

Clans are a team game which means any player should be able to play any game, that is the point of having a squad of players. If i was drawn against a player then they subbed and put seb/dvz/been etc into play me i would take it as a compliment rather than bothering about the actual sub.

To be honest, I don't usually sub/swap people for the hell of it, but don't all clans want to win?? Isn't that the point in playing in a LEAGUE?! Just saying...

I don't see why it isn't like before.. limit to 1 swap per clan per fixture?

e.g. a swap is made, other team reverse.. that's is all gone, only subs now..

seems much better to stick to like last seasons rule.. things kept better.

i totally agree with you harry, also a limit for subs should be made i guess.

Yeah I see you're point m8, but if i was drawn to play seb and then I was subbed out for been then i would be annoyed, when subs are made for tactical reasons it just shows that some captains have no faith in some of there players!!

Has never been a swap limit in FCL to my knowledge and should never be.

I don't like tactical subbing either but sometimes it is needed. Most of the time i would only swap due to Timezones, Inactivity or if i know that the 2 players dislike each other (e.g. me and huts).

One of you needs to accept this swap otherwise the defaults forum will be full of swaps which has been reversed and this isn't good for defaults as its poor captaincy.

huts is going to accept the swap whether he likes it or not.

why is it he can do it time and time again but when someone wants to do it to him its suddenly an outrage to tactical sub/swap?

It is not as if any players are losing games by being subbed out, we are just rearranging them.

Never been any limits on swaps in FCL but there is a 1 swap limit in the FBL.

no idea, he is the origin of tactical subbing and this always happens when someone beats someone at their own game.

i will reverse all swaps tell u that jem . your messing up fixs that were handed out . im happy with all fixs given and feel theres no need to make any swaps or subs if its not needed .

we had 2 players that could of played earlier and your player refused to play as hes worried of a heavey defeat . krazyash your a great guy but u need to play better players and stop running away from them .

Do u believe a single word you say?

Instead of asking ash to stop running surely the same applies with hoolahan and bezerk?? You are such a drama queen huts and also a hypocrite you do exactly the same then act like a spoilt child when you get it back


Edited at 22:36 Sun 14/07/13 (BST)

No one refused from our side... you were refusing the swaps and scared of your good players vs our good player haha!

And so because you are happy with your fixtures it means we have to lump it if we aren't happy with ours??? Well newsflash, the world doesn't revolve around you and Elite Force.

Our Ash isn't scared to play anyone, we just want to secure as many points as we can since in the FCL we are going up against the big guns!

Hypocrite much?!?!?!?!

Yeah to be fair huts you have no right to complain because you do exactly the same, but i just think it's ridiculous that people can choose who they want to play.

Captains need to have more faith in there players, what you're basically saying pixie, is ash isn't good enough to beat hoolahan so you made a swap for someone who you think is or capable of getting more points.

I disagree with tactical bubs, but I agree with egg on face

Agreed. In my opinion huts started tactical subbing, and now loads are following suit. For me, this tactic is ruining the FCL. The random draw is such an important aspect of the tie - making 3 tactical subs within 24 hours is an absolute joke - and it's taking liberties with the rules.

I'm not scared to play anyone, we win, lose & draw as a team. If I got thrashed 15-0 I would still have 100% faith in the rest of the team in that particular fixture to either claw the deficit back or do their best to get it as close as possible.

The switches were made with reasons, which tbh I have actually never seen from huts24 in the past, All were justified and instead of the moaning about them, 2 matches could have been played this evening alone.

I'm vice captain to Jema, if she asks me to do something then I will do it without any hesitation, whether I like the request or not I feel a duty to follow her orders.

For people to say I'm scared of playing the better players, rubbish, I know i can play anyone on here and as long as I have tried my best then I'd be happy. I've given some of the better players matches in the past and will happily do it again.

I agree faust, there needs some soirt of cap put into place

Woah woah wooooaaahh ... I incorporated a cap on the subs unless extreme circumstances approved by moi ... remember the 7 day rule and people didn't like it and now here are people saying you shouldn't sub/swap and let the games get played... this is exactly the reason why it was put in ... jeez louise, cant win LOL!!

I didn't even say Ash wasn't good enough, he offered his spot as he wanted to face huts being his old captain n what not.

You've got to fight for your to parrrrrtttttyyyyyyyy.