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00:28 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
FBL Changes

- Cap on substitutions has been reduced to 24 hours after game release unless a player has deactivated/left (no league runner permission required)
- Killer will be implemented back into the FBL as 1 game per fixture to start with (6 points + 1 point win bonus). If this season goes well, 2 games per fixture will be put into effect next season.
- Killer defaults will be subject to FBL default rules, daily updates on killer games are required on the appropriate thread and counted as default information should a game go to default.
- Frames per game have increased to 7 frames for 8US, 9US & 8UK. Straight remains as 3 and worth double points. An odd number of games determines who gets the win bonus.
- There are to be NO transfers during the season or signing of new players unless a clans numbers drop below 12.

Possible changes?

- Weekly fixture releases with 1 game or fortnightly with 2?
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00:29 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Changes based upon poll results...

- The FBL will now be split into 2 divisions with each clan playing all opponents TWICE.
- The win bonus had split opinions therefore I shall scrap the win bonus of the whole fixture and reward individual win bonuses of 1 point.
- The completion bonus was voted to be kept as it is, so I shall (6 points)
- Opinions were again split for how a league should be won. The bonus point of 1 point per game win should keep both sides happy as we are looking at frames + a small incentive to win.

Altered rules

- Restrictions lifted on deadline day for subs/swaps - player limit on KILLER also lifted (e.g. games can be 3 v 2 instead of restricted 3 v 3)

If you have any questions, please feel free to post or message me. Constructive posts are welcome however snide/rude comments will be overlooked.
punkpoet
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00:41 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
'There are to be NO transfers during the season or signing of new players unless a clans numbers drop below 12'

Completely agree but does this mean just players all ready in clans or to eveyone even if there not in a clan?


Unsure on 2 divisions as how will they be decided?
And not too keen on changing to 7 games instead of 6 but see the reasons why.

Some good changes here
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00:47 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Very good alterations Jemma, you will never be able to please everyone as not everyone accepts change or adapt differently to it. I think the 7 games is a good idea but could only apply should the match be tied 3-3, in order to determine the eventual winner?

NO transfers simply means NO TRANSFERS lol, which is another good alteration.
bluenose1872
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00:47 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Easy to decide, top 5 or 6 clans from last season are division one.
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00:48 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
If all clans join then there should be 11...

5 in division one & 6 in division two

League + Cup Winners automatically make D1 - others Elite Force, Fighting Eagles & Uprising.

New clans Black Magic, Ballbreakers & UT in D2 - others Underdogs, Pocket Dynamos & Unbeatables.

Edited at 21:51 Sat 25/05/13 (BST)
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00:54 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Very good alterations Jemma, you will never be able to please everyone as not everyone accepts change or adapt differently to it. I think the 7 games is a good idea but could only apply should the match be tied 3-3, in order to determine the eventual winner?

NO transfers simply means NO TRANSFERS lol, which is another good alteration.

All frames will need to be played as every frame counts in this league. Even if you are 4 - 0 up you need to finish the frames or they go default.
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00:56 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
No problemo.
whocares8x8
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01:06 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Interesting- pretty big changes!

We can't sign free agents during the season?
So I should stick potential candidates in now so that they have the option of playing for us. Right?

"- Killer defaults will be subject to FBL default rules, daily updates on killer games are required on the appropriate thread and counted as default information should a game go to default."
^That is quite frankly ridiculous. Honestly, just swallow this pool pride and do it the way it has worked for many seasons now! Who in the world is gonna post every day on your thread?? -_-
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01:12 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
When it comes to determining defaults, clans will do it and I don't have pool pride, I just quite frankly don't agree with your Snooker system.

The idea of an updates thread has been welcomed hence the reason of implementing it. An update will take 2 minutes of your time.
whocares8x8
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01:14 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
What exactly do you want in this update? Which players were online when? Who posted what, where? Who pm'ed someone else?
erigert
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01:17 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
i think you should decide for a standart time in which we should post our updates cause we cant be chasing the players all the day
dgeneratio
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01:21 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
also would captains have option to post a summary at the end instead of day to day updates? in case captains aren't around as they can't be around all the time.
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01:21 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I have been speaking to someone who might be coming back to help run the league this season.

We feel a clan should have a killer nominee, a player who will arrange killer on behalf of the clan, this can be the captain or any player. It should be someone who is active and can post the updates.

Updates should basically state any arranged times agreed with the opposing clan, whether attempt has been made to contact the opposing clan and what players you have available at that time.

The updates should take place between 9PM - 10PM each night in order for me to check the information daily (important regarding checking activity of players)

Example of an update.

Black Magic

Messaged UT about arranging a time, not heard back. Players currently available for killer are cue_classic, krazyash_07, berzerk, fry06 & myself.


It is basically a daily version of what you already have in effect on Schnooker.
whocares8x8
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01:28 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
No, it's nothing like what we have in place on snooker- it takes a ridiculous amount of effort and in the end you still have to judge everyone's effort.

whocares8x8 said:
We can't sign free agents during the season?
So I should stick potential candidates in now so that they have the option of playing for us. Right?
dgeneratio
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01:28 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
could the updates be posted before/after that time?

how will scoring work?, will you do a mini default each day or do it normally by reading all the daily reports at the end?
angry_bacon
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01:33 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm glad killer is back in regular fixtures. Although I don't think you'll need to go anymore than doing 1 fixture per set. In the past I've arranged/tried to arrange a lot of clan killer matches and it's really tough to get 3 or even 2 players from both clans involved online at the same time. Just my experiences though
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01:35 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
could the updates be posted before/after that time?

how will scoring work?, will you do a mini default each day or do it normally by reading all the daily reports at the end?

I shall read all the reports at the end and determine the default result by that. Most players are from the UK and are online at about 9 - 10 each night, you can post a bit earlier if you wish but no later than 10PM as I'll need to check the player activity

EDIT: No sorry, free agents can only be signed should a clan reach 12 or less players.
cke1982
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01:38 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
happy with changes some good changes made especially transfers so players just don't say im going with out playing games they've been put in to and players getting took from ur clan when they've played well
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01:43 Sun 26 May 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm glad killer is back in regular fixtures. Although I don't think you'll need to go anymore than doing 1 fixture per set. In the past I've arranged/tried to arrange a lot of clan killer matches and it's really tough to get 3 or even 2 players from both clans involved online at the same time. Just my experiences though

That is why I only wanted 1 to start with, I think they are quite a tricky thing to manage so we shall see how 1 goes
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