Not my or anyones problem?

Of course its your problem if it happens to your side cree, as that could stop you getting into the FCL league if you cant finish a certain amount of games

So anyway i think we have more yes's to a single division to two division one? correct me if i'm wrong?

I'm not plannning to play in clans next season so heres my totally unbiased opinion.

I agree with what ipotalot said "1 division would just mean every season all the clans folding and a new super clan winning."

With one division you will have 1 or 2 clans winning it every season and the others just making up the numbers, where with two divisions it gives more people the chance to win something which in turn keeps people interested in clan leagues, what I'm saying is players will get bored and say "theres no point entering when either them or them will win it anyway".
So if possible I would try to stick to 2 Divisions

Re-read your original post and maybe think before you type next time cos it is just non-sensical

There as only been bout 8 people that have voted, how the hell can you go on that vote when there is 176 people hoping to play in the FCL?

For a good vote you would need at least half of the players voting so that would be 88

Read it mate, and cant see your argument? just you want to argue like always! cant stand anyone suggesting something can you? always the person trying to be-little people!

Lets start a vote thread then?

You would need Jays permission to start a thread cree so better off waiting for him to come online first

Who fits the criteria of your post then cree? i.e who was it aimed at because it fits nobody and makes no sense!!
You can hardly call me argumentative when you have quit the league for attention more times than you have managed to play a game and spent most of your first season on here arguing or apologising for being too argumentative lol
At least I gave reasons based on the effects on the league, not just some random attack

If your having a vote I say league runners message captains to speak to their players and possibly have an in clan vote, then all captains represent their clan with 1 official vote, having a voting thread or just letting people vote here will just get messy and could also cause arguments, I'm already seeing the odd bit of bickering, its best avoided.

listen, i dont care about if we have 1, 2 or 3 divisions? i was mearly suggesting my thoughts! I get my head up my bum when people come and comment here like i dont have any reason to make my suggestions? i can and will make suggestions anytime i want! i just dont like people who think they are better than me, and more able than me to put me down!!!!

agree with alan, on snooker one division works because all the clans are of similar skill so its a close season plus we never have anymore than 8 clans so 2 divisions wouldn't work for us.

two divisions has been the center of fcl for long as i can remember and i don't think it should be changed. two divisions also gives the lower clans something to work towards, although if you get super teams folding every season and making an ultimate team then the lower clans like Vipers and Underdogs (<< no offence intended) might not stand much chance against the MVP types of players.

what i would like to see implemented is a Cup/Plate system so the losers of their first cup match would go into the plate competition while the winners go into a cup competition.

Please back it up with proof!

The two best arguments against one league I think are:

1. Many teams won't have anything to win, because one or two teams will dominate.

Answer: This is a valid point. A second division gives "other" teams the chance to win something. In theory.
In practice however we see a very strong, newly-formed clan in div2 almost every season. It was Untouchables this season (easily a good div 1 side), a couple of seasons ago it was Snooker Squad and MVP, next season it will be Professionals and Chips and Gravy.
So actually, you just have clans with great players pounding all of div 2 for a season before they come up. No difference at all.

2. Clans have no incentive to keep going and could just reform in the same division next season.

Answer: Also correct, but again only in theory. As we can see, MVP's players or UT's players clearly don't mind folding and making new clans that will play div 2 next season. So obviously, a second division is not something that stops good clans from folding.

Two divisions only makes sense with stable, long-running clans. Next season we'll have clans dominating div 2 that could compete for div 1. Same as a few seasons ago where MVP and Snooker Squad were probably the two best teams overall but were both in div 2... makes little sense to me.

Right guys, this is a discussion thread and everyone is entitled to an opinion, I'm sure we can all do that without the digs and arguments, lets keep it friendly and give our opinions without debating or arguing about other members opinions, we will never all agree so theres no point arguing, gets you nowhere, I'm sure we all want whats best for the FCL.

^^ bump ^^

People will shoot you soon if ya mention Snooker again

The bit in bold could be a good edition and not too much more work needed as the plate would no doubt run along the same deadline as the proper cup competition and it also gives the lesser clan a chance of winning some silverware

an idea seed the teams then do 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc in the pre friendly, whoever wins that game does to division one while losers go to division two might not be much but its a start, least then you can get clans of similar skill in the same division.

in the friendly a good team vs a good team can't happen but sometimes it may be unavoidable.

There's no reform necessary if we stay with 2 divisions.