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dgeneratio
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03:39 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
so why is brad allowed to leave now then surely that aint during that 1 week window ...so the complaints from DF abve are valid

lol i aint much of a reader of the rules dgen you got me on that

thats because the rule i posted was from the snooker clan league site the rule Jay posted is pools version which is that any player can transfer ONCE then they must stick with their chosen clan.
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03:41 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
lol its all snooker with you

so what i said about the transer within 1 fixture could come into play although am in favour with alan no transfer at all
bluenose1872
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03:43 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
bradonforest messaged me back and has said he wishes to stay at Team Angry, the rule allows that and the team change has been made.

I'll catch up on this marathon or posts soon
dgeneratio
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03:44 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
like i said i don't mind, no transfers can be good or bad but it certainly does what it says on the tin, it would make players think carefully about which clan to join.
ab_rfc
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03:45 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
exactly

The season only lasts 8 weeks so do we really need transfers, whether its anytime or a window, I say join a clan and stick with it and if your not happy sort it out for the following season, lets bring back a bit of loyalty to clans.
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03:48 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
bradonforest messaged me back and has said he wishes to stay at Team Angry, the rule allows that and the team change has been made.

I'll catch up on this marathon or posts soon


So no captains ever need to release a player again! Good to know for future...
dgeneratio
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03:48 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
plus the loyal people tend to stay for the season anyway
dgeneratio
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03:50 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
bradonforest messaged me back and has said he wishes to stay at Team Angry, the rule allows that and the team change has been made.

I'll catch up on this marathon or posts soon


So no captains ever need to release a player again! Good to know for future...

basically yeah, it happened with 8s when huts moved to Shooters, it says in rules that the player can move without permission, only downside is that it takes effect there and then when should be at end of fixture set.
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03:52 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
bradonforest messaged me back and has said he wishes to stay at Team Angry, the rule allows that and the team change has been made.

I'll catch up on this marathon or posts soon


So no captains ever need to release a player again! Good to know for future...

basically yeah, it happened with 8s when huts moved to Shooters, it says in rules that the player can move without permission, only downside is that it takes effect there and then when should be at end of fixture set.


On the website till about half an hour ago it did not say that though!
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03:54 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
No permission was ever sought from me for a player to be released to another clan! As far as i'm concerned until permission is given then under no circumstances should that player be eligable to play for anyone else until it's given regardless of who they want to play for!

As pointed out i would not stand in anyone's way but until I'm asked, permission is not given!

I agree with ab_rfc that no transfers are allowed during a season. You want to join a clan, you make a serious decision.

As for league runners deciding that if its not, the move will be blessed anyway! I'm highly disappointed!
whocares8x8
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04:02 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
The only mistake here was that the rules weren't updated on the website.

The rule was changed after long discussion/arguments recently. There is 1 transfer per season per player. The player needs no permission but should tell their captain ahead of time out of courtesy.

The fact that this crucial rule wasn't updated on the website is a big error, but we did have the discussion here where everyone was involved.
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04:07 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
If we are making decisions though Seb, we only have the rules written to go by.

If the rule was omitted, error or not then it should not be seen as an enforcable rule.

The rules we guide our decisions by should stand.

The rule on the site was a player needs permission, this was not given. Until I'm asked the player is a Divine Forces player until i say otherwise.
bradonforest
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04:29 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
look guys i'm sorry for all the fuss this has caused but don't get all in a pickle over it, its an online game come on, it's a clan.. i've made my decision to stick with team angry and sorry i didn't notify you divine forces.
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04:37 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
The point is more the way the move has come about. You message me and you will 999 out of a 1000 be released.

The problem is permission wasn't given and the move given the green light anyway.

Again I mean this in no bad way to you but until permission is asked and granted, you in my eyes are a Divine Forces team member.

I stick by the rules and do not look to benefit out of things being updated, not updated.

The rules stated permission was required. This move should not have been sanctioned by league runners as per the the site rules.

I would now look, as the captain directly involved, for the move to be cancelled, permission asked and an apology to my team members who were called liars when stating what was said.
horse10000
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04:42 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
The only mistake here was that the rules weren't updated on the website.

The rule was changed after long discussion/arguments recently. There is 1 transfer per season per player. The player needs no permission but should tell their captain ahead of time out of courtesy.

The fact that this crucial rule wasn't updated on the website is a big error, but we did have the discussion here where everyone was involved.


100% correct
bluenose1872
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04:45 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
The move will not be cancelled, permission will not be asked for unless you really want that. Even though the rule that was posted and discussed a while ago prevents players needing permission (for one move only). I certainly won't apologise for anything that i have said because to be quite honest i never said the things i was quoted on saying. Not one single quote that was given was actually me blackmailing or forcing anyone, as the whole inbox messaging was not even posted i can understand people taking it the wrong way, but i wont apologise for something i feel i don't need to.

If you want an apology then we can start at why this was dragged through the threads in the first place, why i was called a joke and comments made that where basically saying i am being biased! When in actual fact i have far more friends that play for Divine Forces than i do at Team Angry!

The rule has already been posted and it was posted ages ago to, in which the players that have been posting where part of the discussion in the first place.

People make mistakes and the only thing i will apologise for is the fact the rule was not updated, but im sure you can understand that not everything or everyone can be perfect and mistakes will happen.
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04:45 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
The point is more the way the move has come about. You message me and you will 999 out of a 1000 be released.

The problem is permission wasn't given and the move given the green light anyway.

Again I mean this in no bad way to you but until permission is asked and granted, you in my eyes are a Divine Forces team member.

I stick by the rules and do not look to benefit out of things being updated, not updated.

The rules stated permission was required. This move should not have been sanctioned by league runners as per the the site rules.

I would now look, as the captain directly involved, for the move to be cancelled, permission asked and an apology to my team members who were called liars when stating what was said.


As per sebs quote, permission was never required just the rule was never updated on website.
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04:48 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
So this rule should stand because of word of mouth and not whats written in black and white?

Permission will be granted when asked. Stick to the rules written and ask permission.

I feel hard done by this. I didn't realise it was a requirement of a captain to read the discussion thread and not the actual rules to find out what they were.

It may come across as petty but as I say, I'm the one directly affected so I will stick by my thoughts and ask that the league runners to tell our members they were wrong for granting the move.
horse10000
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04:54 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
So this rule should stand because of word of mouth and not whats written in black and white?

Permission will be granted when asked. Stick to the rules written and ask permission.

I feel hard done by this. I didn't realise it was a requirement of a captain to read the discussion thread and not the actual rules to find out what they were.

It may come across as petty but as I say, I'm the one directly affected so I will stick by my thoughts and ask that the league runners to tell our members they were wrong for granting the move.



The league runners are not wrong for granting the move, the league runners are applying the rules that was agreed before the league started.

It is unfortunate that the website was incorrect but mistakes do happen.
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14:03 Sat 14 Apr 12 (BST)  [Link]  
the league runners are applying the rules that was agreed before the league started.


I thought the league started (and therefore all league rules were applied) from the time the pre-season games were released? That's how it was sold to us at the time. This change to the transfer rule came after that.

If we had known we could mount a proper campaign to have rules changed we could have really pushed to be able to use new signings in pre-season games!!
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