Where was the information and proof that he was online? there was nothing sent in, he had not replied to his opponent. Results page means nothing in defaults and never has as far back as i can remember for the reason(s) i said above.

Default team decided he deserved 12 points, well actually two people voted 10 - 0 and the other three voted for 15 - 0 so Jema took the average so to speak to the score could have been a lot worse.

Again there was no actual proof that fleetwood was even online as he never replied to his opponent and has not denied that either.

You can be online and actively avoid playing (e.g. going offline when you see your opponent). Being online doesn't mean you've tried to play your game, why should you get points for not trying to play a game?

your missing a point here

no info from fleetwood got a 12-0

no info from lee got a 7-7

thats what im asking

I know for a fact that results pages, and events on a players page have been used in defaults previously by default panel .

what your saying now is

and im suggesting

i need to send all pms screenshot
all offline
all thread communications

then why the games wernt played to get a point or points

when fleetwood didnt and lost 12-0

and lee didnt and getss a 7-7

regardless of who lost them or not

I am missing your point i'll admit that as im not sure what your talking about mate.

I have explained the fleetwood default above and that is all im really going to say about it. Zante probably made it clearer than i did though.

ipotalot did send in information which was then given a 7 - 7. Later on that night he brought it to my attention that a paragraph or two was missing from his information. I did what i thought was the best thing and re-opened his default and the panel was then messaged again to read the information and vote again. Most changed there vote and the score was locked at 8 - 7 in favour of ipotalot.

You are right Sarah but that was all changed when everyone noticed it was not right - i point you to look at Zante's post as that does explain it.

honestly i dot get how 2 results can be so far apart

there must be a head default person posting the info on what to take into account

FBL have full guidelines on what to supply and i aint bothered if it aint 15 games the default panel should work the same within reason

If a player is actively playing but refusing to play games, then i would assume that the opponent would have messages of that player refusing to play, which would then be sent to the default panel ?

so for fleetwood not posting he lost 12-0

what could chris have posted to earn 12 points when the game wasnt even played

MVP was there subs offered i dont get how 12 points can be awarded

How can that player sent in messaged of a player refusing to play though when the player in question did not even reply to those messages.

i know im not on defaults ,,,, and im not asking for info to be divulged

what im asking is ,,, if im in this situation how do i or my player gain points

because by submitting some i can get a 12-0 it might be worth doing it

Him posting? he never replied to offline messages sent by Chris. I would have to look at the information again to see if a sub was offered by either team but i will guess just now that MVP would not offer one as Chris never spent a day offline throughout the remainder of that fortnight.

Just do what you would normally do mate, send in offline messages back and forth with who ever you was playing and possibly a few forum posts stating what is going on with your game whether the guy has been offline for a week or something and the usual asking for a sub and things.

If Top Pool Aces actually sent in their information on the time giving then who knows there might have been a different prediction but default team could only go off Chris's information. I did say before the season started if you dont send in information by the deadline then that will be that and you will be marked on the default as submitting no information.

the same way that a player send in messages that opponent closed window etc , as we do receive for defaults . Maybe fcl should have guidelines for default staff, and teams the same way as fbl does. It may prevent these problems happening. The new default staff on fbl have been given mock defaults, to ensure that defaults are done properly. Defaults in both divisions will be overlooked to make sure there arent mistakes, which has happened previously in both leagues.

im lost at how a game not getting played can get 12-0 points and no sub offered up either

maybe its me here but somthing is wrong ,, lets hope i dont have any defaults,,,

and again if you need to know about my involvement in fbl is then please ask a league runner of FBL or myself

i edited that piece out as not to sound petty,,

Edited at 02:33 Sun 25/03/12 (BST)

the same way that a player send in messages that opponent closed window etc , as we do receive for defaults . Maybe fcl should have guidelines for default staff, and teams the same way as fbl does. It may prevent these problems happening. The new default staff on fbl have been given mock defaults, to ensure that defaults are done properly. Defaults in both divisions will be overlooked to make sure there arent mistakes, which has happened previously in both leagues.

Have taken that on board Sarah.

Off topic for a second, i was not made aware of these mock defaults? I have had no message about it. Also while we on this subject - strikelucky8 has deactivated and so has andy2b. Both are on FBL defaults team for..... division one i think.

swiflty moving back to topic im sure that could be done in offline message between you 2 well respected people

They have been taken off fbl default team you have access to fbl defaults, i wanted the new default team to do them, but you are welcome to comment as an experienced default member