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15:41 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
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chris said:
Sometimes I despair about the running of this.
You have a set of rules drawn up that is fair to absolutely everyone, all players and every clan alike, and then at the first sign of it being challenged it gets rescinded in favour of a change which will benefit (or not affect at all) certain clans and positively disadvantage others.
I know all about how this is a fun league and there shouldnt be too many restrictions on players playing and who they play for as far as possible but ultimately it really does have to be fair to everyone.
You have a set of rules drawn up that is fair to absolutely everyone, all players and every clan alike, and then at the first sign of it being challenged it gets rescinded in favour of a change which will benefit (or not affect at all) certain clans and positively disadvantage others.
I know all about how this is a fun league and there shouldnt be too many restrictions on players playing and who they play for as far as possible but ultimately it really does have to be fair to everyone.
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15:47 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
if these infringements occur, thats what admin and moderators are for, its simple really report them.....
antione08 said:
lmao no comment about keith
well thats somethin to be decided on, but can i ask, does personal slating/abuse count? alot of players find things offensive that other players wouldnt, so would have to sort that out also
ermm how about constant digs at players, sarcastic hurtful comments, comments which are purposefully put on forums to prevoke an argument. Can anythin be done about players makin certain comments to prevoke it? its unfriendly and has turned alot of players away from clans, and bein so many defaults, im sure the last thing people want to do is turn those reliable, loyal and great players away
well thats somethin to be decided on, but can i ask, does personal slating/abuse count? alot of players find things offensive that other players wouldnt, so would have to sort that out also
ermm how about constant digs at players, sarcastic hurtful comments, comments which are purposefully put on forums to prevoke an argument. Can anythin be done about players makin certain comments to prevoke it? its unfriendly and has turned alot of players away from clans, and bein so many defaults, im sure the last thing people want to do is turn those reliable, loyal and great players away
if these infringements occur, thats what admin and moderators are for, its simple really report them.....
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16:05 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
that is something that i cannot comment on, jay is head runner, he would have to decide what he wants in situations like this
antione08 said:
lmao no comment about keith
well thats somethin to be decided on, but can i ask, does personal slating/abuse count? alot of players find things offensive that other players wouldnt, so would have to sort that out also
ermm how about constant digs at players, sarcastic hurtful comments, comments which are purposefully put on forums to prevoke an argument. Can anythin be done about players makin certain comments to prevoke it? its unfriendly and has turned alot of players away from clans, and bein so many defaults, im sure the last thing people want to do is turn those reliable, loyal and great players away
well thats somethin to be decided on, but can i ask, does personal slating/abuse count? alot of players find things offensive that other players wouldnt, so would have to sort that out also
ermm how about constant digs at players, sarcastic hurtful comments, comments which are purposefully put on forums to prevoke an argument. Can anythin be done about players makin certain comments to prevoke it? its unfriendly and has turned alot of players away from clans, and bein so many defaults, im sure the last thing people want to do is turn those reliable, loyal and great players away
that is something that i cannot comment on, jay is head runner, he would have to decide what he wants in situations like this
16:46 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
im just thinking if someone doesn't use their transfer token, would there be a reward for them?
in my head i was thinking about a player value something like you get 500 pts for winning a match -500 for losing and 1000 for not using your transfer token. you can't go below 0 and the value can go up or down all the time, maybe then people can see who is loyal. but this was only a 2 minute think so its probably not worth it.
in my head i was thinking about a player value something like you get 500 pts for winning a match -500 for losing and 1000 for not using your transfer token. you can't go below 0 and the value can go up or down all the time, maybe then people can see who is loyal. but this was only a 2 minute think so its probably not worth it.
17:50 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
i also don't like the idea of a person refusing to play clan games because they can't move etc, they should treat the clan the same as there new one and players should play to top level regardless of which clan they are in and any who don't should be treated as a refusal to play at defaults so would be a warning normally then a suspension of some kind.
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17:52 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Dgeneratio
Iv just found the meaning of your name
Its a good name for you as you somehow GENERATE alot of ideas.
Dont ask why im saying this,it just popped into my head lol
Iv just found the meaning of your name
Its a good name for you as you somehow GENERATE alot of ideas.
Dont ask why im saying this,it just popped into my head lol
17:55 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
my name comes from D Generation X from Wrestling, so maybe
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17:58 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
if these infringements occur, thats what admin and moderators are for, its simple really report them.....
please refrain from commentin on my questions, it was a question for league runners, not a question for captains
im fully aware mods and admin are the ones to report to, but this is to do with the league. just because the league is run within this site, doesnt mean the league cant be more strict when it comes to discipline within the league.
Bluenose, any idea on how to conquer the abusive players?
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antione08 said:
lmao no comment about keith
well thats somethin to be decided on, but can i ask, does personal slating/abuse count? alot of players find things offensive that other players wouldnt, so would have to sort that out also
ermm how about constant digs at players, sarcastic hurtful comments, comments which are purposefully put on forums to prevoke an argument. Can anythin be done about players makin certain comments to prevoke it? its unfriendly and has turned alot of players away from clans, and bein so many defaults, im sure the last thing people want to do is turn those reliable, loyal and great players away
well thats somethin to be decided on, but can i ask, does personal slating/abuse count? alot of players find things offensive that other players wouldnt, so would have to sort that out also
ermm how about constant digs at players, sarcastic hurtful comments, comments which are purposefully put on forums to prevoke an argument. Can anythin be done about players makin certain comments to prevoke it? its unfriendly and has turned alot of players away from clans, and bein so many defaults, im sure the last thing people want to do is turn those reliable, loyal and great players away
if these infringements occur, thats what admin and moderators are for, its simple really report them.....
please refrain from commentin on my questions, it was a question for league runners, not a question for captains
im fully aware mods and admin are the ones to report to, but this is to do with the league. just because the league is run within this site, doesnt mean the league cant be more strict when it comes to discipline within the league.
Bluenose, any idea on how to conquer the abusive players?
18:23 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Are you for real ?, test it on snooker and get back to us lol
dgeneratio said:
im just thinking if someone doesn't use their transfer token, would there be a reward for them?
in my head i was thinking about a player value something like you get 500 pts for winning a match -500 for losing and 1000 for not using your transfer token. you can't go below 0 and the value can go up or down all the time, maybe then people can see who is loyal. but this was only a 2 minute think so its probably not worth it.
in my head i was thinking about a player value something like you get 500 pts for winning a match -500 for losing and 1000 for not using your transfer token. you can't go below 0 and the value can go up or down all the time, maybe then people can see who is loyal. but this was only a 2 minute think so its probably not worth it.
Are you for real ?, test it on snooker and get back to us lol
18:24 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
lol no need. We have a perfectly functioning transfer window, so no silly permission/1 transfer rules. I think he may have mentioned that before once or twice lol?
18:32 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
I've already said a transfer window won't work here, too many teams on pool compared to your mini league on snooker, its time you and dgen accepted it aint going to happen.
ab_rfc said:
Mid season transfer window was discussed and laughed at so why does dgeneratio keep trying to bring in snooker clan rules.
Having a mid season 1 week transfer free for all could kill off clans for the 2nd half of the season if too many players leave.
The transfer rule that was discussed and voted for was that all players could transfer once no matter the reasons, captains permission was added by the league runners, don't know why.
Difference between both transfer rules is with a 1 week free for all you could lose a load of players and struggle to replace them in a week, this could cause clans to fold.
With the rule in place clans will just lose the odd player now and then so it will be easier to replace them.
Should take out the captains permission.
Having a mid season 1 week transfer free for all could kill off clans for the 2nd half of the season if too many players leave.
The transfer rule that was discussed and voted for was that all players could transfer once no matter the reasons, captains permission was added by the league runners, don't know why.
Difference between both transfer rules is with a 1 week free for all you could lose a load of players and struggle to replace them in a week, this could cause clans to fold.
With the rule in place clans will just lose the odd player now and then so it will be easier to replace them.
Should take out the captains permission.
18:36 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Are you for real ?, test it on snooker and get back to us lol
nah because we would get its snooker malarky
ab_rfc said:
dgeneratio said:
im just thinking if someone doesn't use their transfer token, would there be a reward for them?
in my head i was thinking about a player value something like you get 500 pts for winning a match -500 for losing and 1000 for not using your transfer token. you can't go below 0 and the value can go up or down all the time, maybe then people can see who is loyal. but this was only a 2 minute think so its probably not worth it.
in my head i was thinking about a player value something like you get 500 pts for winning a match -500 for losing and 1000 for not using your transfer token. you can't go below 0 and the value can go up or down all the time, maybe then people can see who is loyal. but this was only a 2 minute think so its probably not worth it.
Are you for real ?, test it on snooker and get back to us lol
nah because we would get its snooker malarky
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18:36 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Hmmm, not exactly fair to all clans and players alike when 80% of captains would let a player leave if they wanted to and 20% would force them to stay.
Sure captain's permission wasn't meant to be used that way.
chris said:
Sometimes I despair about the running of this.
You have a set of rules drawn up that is fair to absolutely everyone, all players and every clan alike, and then at the first sign of it being challenged it gets rescinded in favour of a change which will benefit (or not affect at all) certain clans and positively disadvantage others.
I know all about how this is a fun league and there shouldnt be too many restrictions on players playing and who they play for as far as possible but ultimately it really does have to be fair to everyone.
You have a set of rules drawn up that is fair to absolutely everyone, all players and every clan alike, and then at the first sign of it being challenged it gets rescinded in favour of a change which will benefit (or not affect at all) certain clans and positively disadvantage others.
I know all about how this is a fun league and there shouldnt be too many restrictions on players playing and who they play for as far as possible but ultimately it really does have to be fair to everyone.
Hmmm, not exactly fair to all clans and players alike when 80% of captains would let a player leave if they wanted to and 20% would force them to stay.
Sure captain's permission wasn't meant to be used that way.
18:40 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link] I've long stopped suggesting it here.
8 teams is large enough for a league, don't you think? Your only argument against the transfer window is this theoretical nightmare scenario that like 10 players leave one clan in the transfer window (which can happen under the current 1-transfer per person rule as well).
ab_rfc said:
I've already said a transfer window won't work here, too many teams on pool compared to your mini league on snooker, its time you and dgen accepted it aint going to happen.
8 teams is large enough for a league, don't you think? Your only argument against the transfer window is this theoretical nightmare scenario that like 10 players leave one clan in the transfer window (which can happen under the current 1-transfer per person rule as well).
19:43 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
it might not happen alan but it doesn't stop me from suggesting it, i presented it as an idea to make the league better, i didn't even care if it was from snooker like the poolers do. sometimes i wish when we present an idea that came from snooker that people don't say its not going to happen because its from snooker but have a look at the idea as if its not from snooker.
the snooker clan league has actually had some FCL ideas like the default team for instance and we took the rules from the FCL site and amended ourselves
the snooker clan league has actually had some FCL ideas like the default team for instance and we took the rules from the FCL site and amended ourselves
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19:46 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Sorry James...you lost me at snooker......zzzzzzzzz
19:52 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Forget that i am confused
Edited at 17:58 Thu 23/02/12 (GMT)
Edited at 17:58 Thu 23/02/12 (GMT)
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20:04 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
Indeed that is exactly how it is meant to work. In most cases Captains would happily grant permission for a player to move (probably far greater than your 80%). However they had the option of not granting it if it was in their clan's best interest not to.
There's a good reason why rules like this exist in real life team sports.
ipotalot said:
Hmmm, not exactly fair to all clans and players alike when 80% of captains would let a player leave if they wanted to and 20% would force them to stay.
Sure captain's permission wasn't meant to be used that way.
Sure captain's permission wasn't meant to be used that way.
Indeed that is exactly how it is meant to work. In most cases Captains would happily grant permission for a player to move (probably far greater than your 80%). However they had the option of not granting it if it was in their clan's best interest not to.
There's a good reason why rules like this exist in real life team sports.
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20:09 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
still debating over this.. i think you should keep the fact that the captain has to give permission.
we all know that a few captains wouldnt, but thats what the league runners are here for, if the player is being unfairly treated, fair enough let him leave.
But if the player is fine, and the captain needs him to stay, then i dont see why he cant stay. The rule was fine as it was before last night, captains permission, 1 transfer each.
we all know that a few captains wouldnt, but thats what the league runners are here for, if the player is being unfairly treated, fair enough let him leave.
But if the player is fine, and the captain needs him to stay, then i dont see why he cant stay. The rule was fine as it was before last night, captains permission, 1 transfer each.
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20:15 Thu 23 Feb 12 (GMT) [Link]
League runners cannot get involved in how a clan runs itself. Its not their job to and just causes more arguments. Besides which they dont need to as the rules are, or were, clear.
The rest is spot on though.
theukspoon said:
still debating over this.. i think you should keep the fact that the captain has to give permission.
we all know that a few captains wouldnt, but thats what the league runners are here for, if the player is being unfairly treated, fair enough let him leave.
But if the player is fine, and the captain needs him to stay, then i dont see why he cant stay. The rule was fine as it was before last night, captains permission, 1 transfer each.
we all know that a few captains wouldnt, but thats what the league runners are here for, if the player is being unfairly treated, fair enough let him leave.
But if the player is fine, and the captain needs him to stay, then i dont see why he cant stay. The rule was fine as it was before last night, captains permission, 1 transfer each.
League runners cannot get involved in how a clan runs itself. Its not their job to and just causes more arguments. Besides which they dont need to as the rules are, or were, clear.
The rest is spot on though.
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