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17:18 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Jooodles next time you want to have a pop at other runners actually mention them, Proved time and time again that i am not biased, come to think of it nor is Jema. I said it was funny as he returned the day after a new league was being made, it was a bit coincidental and others agree. Never said Chris can't run anything either.
Confidence with certain runners (well there is only two). Everyone has haters so i welcome them as i am used to it. It is funny though as most people that have an issue are to scared to tell you them self until you hear it from a third party. I don't like you much but that is common knowledge but i won't hide it.
With your out of order post especially the last paragraph you have brought all this on yourself. I have no worries posting here and talking to you and showing what you are truly like but if you want to do the grown up thing and take it to offline then i look forward to your message
Confidence with certain runners (well there is only two). Everyone has haters so i welcome them as i am used to it. It is funny though as most people that have an issue are to scared to tell you them self until you hear it from a third party. I don't like you much but that is common knowledge but i won't hide it.
With your out of order post especially the last paragraph you have brought all this on yourself. I have no worries posting here and talking to you and showing what you are truly like but if you want to do the grown up thing and take it to offline then i look forward to your message
17:24 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Also pointing out that for a while i wanted the Super League to come back and glad it has. (not fully checked the new rules yet), but of course i was also supporting my mate cgibson92 in something he wanted to do.
He has since gave that up for now as he looked at the bigger picture. Four leagues would be mayhem and no doubt all would suffer with defaults at some stages. Everyone wants to minimise the defaults that leagues get and with three leagues its hard but possible as proven before if they accommodate each other deadline wise.
He has since gave that up for now as he looked at the bigger picture. Four leagues would be mayhem and no doubt all would suffer with defaults at some stages. Everyone wants to minimise the defaults that leagues get and with three leagues its hard but possible as proven before if they accommodate each other deadline wise.
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17:27 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Sorry don't quite understand the interchangeable teams bit Chris, can you explain it please? I agree if you had the 3 foul bonus you would have to have 7 balling bonus too. Think that would lead to too many bonus points though so would just have runouts.
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17:35 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
I actually dont see the point of them being interchangeable maybe only during the transfer window can players be moved about? I will enter 2 teams hopefully both as strong as each other.
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19:13 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
I honestly don't believe most clans (even with 16 regular and active players) can sustain two completely separate teams for a whole season.
The idea would be that any clan that wished to enter two teams can. How they decided to run them internally is clearly down to themselves. If they wanted two completely distinct teams of players then they can.
However as far as the League was concerned, any registered clan member could play for either team at any stage. The only restriction would be that during a fixture period, for example, if you had played for the A team you could not play for the B team as well. For the next fixture however you can again play in either the A or B team. It maximises the numbers of subs always available for either team and should help get all games played.
Would also potentially put a little spice into the League by giving Captains chances to maximise tactical decisions in deciding who plays in which team against which opponent during any fixture period.
Its an interesting idea but may be a step too far and radical for some so thats why I am interested in getting people's views.
Other thing I failed to mention previously was that although I have added in Killer games as I believe they are a team play element and fun, they don't have to be there again if people just simply want the five single/individual games then fine. The Killer scoring as well is also designed that they shouldn't necessarily prove decisive in a fixture like that and Straight can do elsewhere as the maximum winning score is likely to be 10-3 rather than a whitewash assuming the two players from either side do take part. 10-3 maximum is unlikely to be too far off an average maximum score from the singles games in a reasonably one sided clan match.
The idea would be that any clan that wished to enter two teams can. How they decided to run them internally is clearly down to themselves. If they wanted two completely distinct teams of players then they can.
However as far as the League was concerned, any registered clan member could play for either team at any stage. The only restriction would be that during a fixture period, for example, if you had played for the A team you could not play for the B team as well. For the next fixture however you can again play in either the A or B team. It maximises the numbers of subs always available for either team and should help get all games played.
Would also potentially put a little spice into the League by giving Captains chances to maximise tactical decisions in deciding who plays in which team against which opponent during any fixture period.
Its an interesting idea but may be a step too far and radical for some so thats why I am interested in getting people's views.
Other thing I failed to mention previously was that although I have added in Killer games as I believe they are a team play element and fun, they don't have to be there again if people just simply want the five single/individual games then fine. The Killer scoring as well is also designed that they shouldn't necessarily prove decisive in a fixture like that and Straight can do elsewhere as the maximum winning score is likely to be 10-3 rather than a whitewash assuming the two players from either side do take part. 10-3 maximum is unlikely to be too far off an average maximum score from the singles games in a reasonably one sided clan match.
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19:24 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
How about have all the bonuses mentioned but bonus is only applicable should the player reach a certain milestone?
Individual Bonuses
ie. gb x 1 - as soon as play is clicked, you accept the fate.
run-outs - 2/3 - Bonus example 10 points
7 balling - x 1 - skill and precision play used, not down to luck
3 consecutive fouls - same as above
IF someone records further events then their team should obtain another bonus. The whole point of a clan is to act as a team, so the team should be awarded.
For example
5 x GB's in 1 season (pushing it but not impossible) a further 10 points for their team.
and other MILESTONES.
Just an idea.
Sorry don't quite understand the interchangeable teams bit Chris, can you explain it please? I agree if you had the 3 foul bonus you would have to have 7 balling bonus too. Think that would lead to too many bonus points though so would just have runouts.
How about have all the bonuses mentioned but bonus is only applicable should the player reach a certain milestone?
Individual Bonuses
ie. gb x 1 - as soon as play is clicked, you accept the fate.
run-outs - 2/3 - Bonus example 10 points
7 balling - x 1 - skill and precision play used, not down to luck
3 consecutive fouls - same as above
IF someone records further events then their team should obtain another bonus. The whole point of a clan is to act as a team, so the team should be awarded.
For example
5 x GB's in 1 season (pushing it but not impossible) a further 10 points for their team.
and other MILESTONES.
Just an idea.
20:04 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
About one clan having two teams:
my only experience with this was when it was tried on snooker a few seasons ago. They had a Team Red and Team Blue, but both ended up folding. Although they had to be run as two separate teams, so it wasn't quite the same.
But I'm slightly critical of the idea of interchangeable teams.
my only experience with this was when it was tried on snooker a few seasons ago. They had a Team Red and Team Blue, but both ended up folding. Although they had to be run as two separate teams, so it wasn't quite the same.
But I'm slightly critical of the idea of interchangeable teams.
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20:08 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Uprising want two teams in. If its not allowed then i guess we can create a mini clan just for this league.
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20:10 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
I doubt any clan would be able to run two fully separate teams for a whole season but I am happy to let them try.
There is a potential for abuse of an interchangeable two team system if players were so inclined - its a question of whether the fun benefits outweigh those potential pitfalls.
There is a potential for abuse of an interchangeable two team system if players were so inclined - its a question of whether the fun benefits outweigh those potential pitfalls.
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20:16 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Interchangeable defeats the object of having 2 teams representing 1 surely?
The same players will end up facing the stronger teams, leaving the so called 'Secondary team' with players who their captain feels aren't capable. This will cause a lot of unrest and potential collapse of one of the teams if not both.
IF clans want to enter say Team A & Team B, they should both be drawn at random and only be amended/modified during the transfer window time. (2/3 changes ONLY)
The same players will end up facing the stronger teams, leaving the so called 'Secondary team' with players who their captain feels aren't capable. This will cause a lot of unrest and potential collapse of one of the teams if not both.
IF clans want to enter say Team A & Team B, they should both be drawn at random and only be amended/modified during the transfer window time. (2/3 changes ONLY)
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20:20 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Certainly wont be drawn at random - Captains can decide their own A & B teams and there will never be a transfer window.
A & B teams would always have the option of signing additional players from elsewhere as they would still be allowed the same max of 16 players.
A & B teams would always have the option of signing additional players from elsewhere as they would still be allowed the same max of 16 players.
20:24 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Unless you had a set list of players for each team, A and B which can change between fixtures but cant change during a fixture, for that current fixture.
ie. players must play for the team they are on at the start of the fixture but can change to another team for the next fixture. Just a thought.
ie. players must play for the team they are on at the start of the fixture but can change to another team for the next fixture. Just a thought.
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20:26 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Could do.
Makes it more work for captains and to be administered - those are the two downsides.
Unless you had a set list of players for each team, A and B which can change between fixtures but cant change during a fixture, for that current fixture.
ie. players must play for the team they are on at the start of the fixture but can change to another team for the next fixture. Just a thought.
ie. players must play for the team they are on at the start of the fixture but can change to another team for the next fixture. Just a thought.
Could do.
Makes it more work for captains and to be administered - those are the two downsides.
20:33 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Well you could just ask every captain to send in the whole team lists for both teams when they're sending in the team sheets for the fixtures
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20:36 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
A team could do that themselves if they wanted to. What do you see as the benefit in formalising it through the League?
20:41 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Well it might be easier to keep track of instead of a load of changes throughout a fixture.
Also it would only need to be done if theres any changes being made to the teams
Also it would only need to be done if theres any changes being made to the teams
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20:46 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
With interchangeable there would be nothing to track - other than to ensure once a player has played for either the A or B they dont then play for the other one as well in the same two weeks.
However I am keen on not going with any idea at all that is seen as being too radical, difficult or complicated.
However I am keen on not going with any idea at all that is seen as being too radical, difficult or complicated.
20:49 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
I don't know- I can see a few captains here purposely putting in their weak side to face certain teams just so that they can pass certain other teams lol. This would give us a reason to actually fear match- and result-fixing!
20:50 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
what happens when the two teams of the same clan face each other?
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20:53 Fri 6 Sep 13 (BST) [Link]
Which would leave us back in the situation of any clans full of truly active players having the option if they wish of entering two completely distinct teams - and filling them up with any free agents as they feel required to provide additional numbers and subs.
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