Jay will you stop telling people to not discuss league matters on the league discussion thread. Nobody is arguing and you haven't bought the rights to any of these pages.
We're discussing league matters on a league discussion thread.

but dont you have to play the games with enough matches to get into the league like last season ? so if the defaults occur in the warm up matches im sure league runners will take it into their own hands and decide whats best for the league ?

All ready said enough on it Lee mate.

Craig can you offline message me about what you just put above please? and in more detail. Im going to see my daughter soon but i can look at it soon.

lee just calm it down a little bit as jay has said he will look into it all i suppose he doesnt want it blowing up into anything massive and although i am in the same boat as you as far as the fact that kev is banned from league i also think that we should let the league runners just do their job for now as jay has said final decision has not been made yet mate

Agree with this part. The cut off point for the pre-season friendlies has got more and more lenient and the 'just let them in' policy has resulted in more and more defaults and unreliable clans.
Captains who get an unacceptable amount of negative defaults shouldn't be allowed to captain for the next season.

Im getting sick of you now mate to be honest, i asked a simple request and that was to keep the avicii thing off the forum, you wonder why heated arguments start well it is for that reason people dont keep it off the forum!

I am head league runner, so im doing what is best for the league hense why asking the above! Im trying to do a good job by the league. Let me do what i need to do, and preventing arguments from arising is one of them jobs, wont be long till your posting your sick of arguments.

i agree you have to be stricter on how many games you need to play (maybe up it to 14 or even 16 out of 18 games, if that was the case then i don't think Top Pool Aces would have made it.



i hope your not on about the clan i think you are.

Perfectly calm matty maybe you mis-read my post.

Subject i was going to bring up to be honest, i was thinking of a cut off point like 13 out of 16?

lee / matty i totally agree with what your saying,
however IF this happened it must be stamped on cheating at this level is an unreal level to go to,,, all in the name of winning........

i also dont think league runners if they have the proof should need a rule to justify their actions whoever that maybe

Bringing the league into disrepute is simply not acceptable

and lee youve never had these type of arguments until recently....

i prefer 14, nice even number

Don't have another hissy fit jesus Jay we're having a civilised disussion about league matters on a league discussion thread.
That is using the forums properly, you have no right telling people off for using the forum properly...won't apologise for pointing that out.
You also shouldn't try having digs about me posting that i'm sick of arguments we both know that after you checked my posts and saw that I didn't go onto any other clans pages causing arguments you changed your tune on that one and half-heartedly apologised.

why don't we all calm down?

Craig we all know how different the tune would be if your player was involved though.
If he was caught stabbing somebody to death in the miiddle of a televised international at wembley stadium you would argue his innocence for weeks.
This is based on rumours and hearsay.
Don't get what the last sentence implies or is pointing out?

I was calm, getting fed up with Jay throwing his rattle of the pram at me everytime somebody points out he isn't god tbh though.

I'm not having any kind of hissy fit and i certainly don't do them.

I honestly see this "civilised discussion" getting out of control by the time im back from seeing my daughter.

I have the right to ask people to stop if i see an argument going on and we had so much of it last season. Fair enough if your all having a proper discussion then by all means go ahead, but my main concern was asking you to keep the avicii situation off the forum, between the player himself and the captain, no need for it to be posted anywhere, but also understand by the time i seen and responded people had started talking about it.

If you want me to listen and take on ideas then dont speak to me like a child. Off this topic now what are people's suggestions about the cut off point?

Bit harsh don't you think ? He asked you not to discuss a particular topic as it was dealt with privately and you chose to ignore this

Cutoff point:
If a clan has more than 2 lost defaults (implying it's their fault), they don't make it.

Throwing what? and thinking im god, jesus seriously grow up, im no different from anyone here except i run the league now.

I try to handle most things through private message though as its the way i like to do it, less chance of arguments and such occuring if you understand what i mean. No need for stupid silly digs towards me when you claim i made them against you.

I think you should start off with 16 as the cut off point and then have the defaults panel look at the defaults.