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We're not talking about transfers rick and coming from the man who refused to release a player very recently himself your opinions are quite funny.
We release people and get them replaced with better...not about us it's about the league.

right you want the truth why i did not let that player go cause if you look back who we had in the last fixtures

some other player was be hide it that you can join my team long as you don't play that last match

then rick will be on more defaults then us so he will not get in the league over it
that what really happen why would the same player ask me again to be my team again

put to together you come up with 5

The default bonus as it was called originally was brought in to cut down defaults, its been tried and obviously hasn't made any difference, so why keep it, we didn't have this bonus for many seasons and it didnt ruin the league then so how will removing it ruin the league now ?

Will you stop making that pathetic comment!! Everyone is free to leave the league whenever they want just because I disagree strongly with a decision doesn't mean i'm sad enough to drop the only reason I come on this site.
If you take things personally towards jay and run your mouth off and tell people to leave everytime they don't agree with him then you have no place as a league runner.

You're taking away a big incentive to get games played and creating situations where it will be more beneficial to a team not to play a fixture.
Defaults were coming down and down every season, they will be right back up again if this is brought in.

you just accuse me of not letting a player go now would u after knowing that ????

You did hold on to a player and refuse his release very recently rick, that's a fact not an accusation.
Only relevance it has is that it makes all your posts on the transfer rules hypocritical...telling people that players should be able to go where they like because it's all fun.
We aren't talking about the transfers any more though, it's bonuses tonight.

You are completely twisting what I said, same as you did with ab's comment.

I am not telling you to leave at all, i do not want anyone to leave, but if you want to play in the league accept the rules that league runners have set out.

And i take nothing personally that is aimed at Jay, he is a big boy, he can look after himself. I have every right to be a league runner as I was asked by Jay to be one, if he didn't think I could do it then he wouldn't have asked. Considering I have done a lot of work for the league over the past week I think I have earned my place as a runner.

This is if we changed to all players allowed one transfer with no captain input. To stop the craig scenario where he just would say no and stop them playing. Anyone could move but they could only move to a different division and it maintains the integrity of the league in full

Ah true i didnt think of the Craig scenario, although you prob mentioned it haha! I suppose that would stop that problem, in that case i 100% agree with you

How could I twist alan's comment I quoted it jem, think it's obvious what it meant that's why i didn't bother with his reply.




That's not argumentative that's trying to end an argument and you come back for the third time with 'if you don't like it don't play in the league'

It's that stupid, childish comment that you keep going back to that winds me up so don't go crying when you get it back.

I agree that any Captain doing that would be wrong. As I said I don't know whether these problems generally start from who a player wants to go and join rather than that they simply want to leave. For example I cannot think of any valid reason why if I was a Captain I wouldn't let a player join a team from another division. I am probably like you, I also wouldnt object to a player joining anyone in the same division either but we have to accept that not everyone is the same. If players and teams get enjoyment from playing to win a league and dont want to hand an advantage to a particular direct competitor can we say they are wrong?

I am not crying, I couldn't care less really, I am just stating the obvious, i specifically said i didnt want you to leave =\

anyway, we obviously just going around in circles and its not related to the topic.

my final vote, i like keith's/chris's combined idea

you did not read my comment i guess you would let him why would he ask me to rejoin my team then
all you like is to listen to you own voice going on not facts

ask the runners what trouble i had getting in the league over that

10pts match completion
10pts win bonus
Award teams match completion as well only if someone starts a game, leaves and makes no effort or refuses to finish the game/deactivates.

Really shouldn't be difficult to oversee if you kept the rule to that and teams would never be in a situation where it's better for them to let a game go to default.

Rick....whatever you are arguing about something totally irrelevant we aren't even discussing transfers and I really don't care about the ins and outs of the whole yetti saga.

you so childish you bring it up now i told you brush aside lol that show you what your all about

Of course there would be.

Team A has a good player that has made all the running to arrange the game. Team B does nothing until the last second then wants to play. Team score is 55-50

Team A's good player is now not around and all that is available is a poor sub. Why would Team A sub him in and risk losing 11-4 or worse? They would have lost the default points win and lost the 10 points win bonus just to pick up 10 completion bonus points.

Sometimes defaults (as much as I would wish there were none) give a truer reflection than forcing through subs and swaps just to get games played at any cost.

Not sure there is any evidence of there being less defaults now than at any other time.

Edited at 22:55 Tue 03/01/12 (GMT)

Every post I have said to you rick...WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT TRANSFERS. I can't make head nor tale of the post where you explain the situation anyway, then you're quoting me talking about the bonus system and responding with more about yetti's transfer...i've given up on getting anywhere with you a long time ago.

That's the only situation where I think most people would agree it is the right thing to go to default anyway.
Why should a team make no running and get a good player subbed out at the last minute to win the match?
There are loads of genuine situations if the bonuses were scrapped where it would be simple to just let the last game go to default and get a loads better result than by playing it.

Lol OK whatever - well I think that subject is sorted now too. Next?!!!