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ab_rfc
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13:39 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I just think a transfer window more encourages players to move, they could start planning a move weeks before the window opens, we see big changes in some clans during the pre season transfer window, do we want that in the middle of a season, could have 3 / 4 or more leaving one clan and the clan struggling for the rest of the season.
With the transfers anytime the players need their captain to release them, I can't see many captains refusing, also this way captains will only need to replace the odd player now and then.
Maybe we should bin the pre season transfer window as it shouldnt really be needed if we go with transfers anytime, players will just need to get released, always.
I also think if a captain refuses to release a player they must have a very good reason, I've seen cases where captains have refused just so the player doesnt get to play for another clan, I say let them go if thats what they want.
doubted2
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13:40 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
5. rule changes i will make some suggestions later
whocares8x8
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13:41 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
I also think if a captain refuses to release a player they must have a very good reason, I've seen cases where captains have refused just so the player doesnt get to play for another clan, I say let them go if thats what they want.
Yeah, but isn't this the main problem with that system? Players could be effectively banned from playing the entire season by their captain and could do nothing about it.
ab_rfc
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13:52 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
doubted2 said:
2. Completion bonus - To scrap it or not.

the whole idea of this was to get fixtures played and reduced defaults
we now have 15 players and 2 weeks

a suggestion
if a player gets his / her game played in the first week he / she should get a bonus point,, this will encourage players to get games played will reduce arguments and defaults
8 points is alot of points to loose or gain and may push captains to play early rather than use tactics


this will also show which players are reliable
dont punish an individual for playing early reward them
as it is a team gets punished maybe for one players actions
and again push captains to play
maybe expanded on

Edited at 11:23 Fri 30/12/11 (GMT)

Craig, there will always be arguments where bonus points for playing is concerned, I can just picture captains posting in opponents threads accusing players of costing their clan points and shouting for subs in week 1, this will cause arguments, even tho its only 1 point, them 1 points add up over a season, 10 fixtures makes it 80 points up for grabs.
ab_rfc
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13:58 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
ab_rfc said:
I also think if a captain refuses to release a player they must have a very good reason, I've seen cases where captains have refused just so the player doesnt get to play for another clan, I say let them go if thats what they want.
Yeah, but isn't this the main problem with that system? Players could be effectively banned from playing the entire season by their captain and could do nothing about it.


In cases of refusal and its obvious the captain is refusing so the player doesnt get to play the league runners should step in, no player should be banned from playing by any captain and if this is the case they shouldn't be captains.

Basically the player should be able to appeal to the league runners.
johnny3tears
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14:27 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
bluenose1872 said:
johnny3tears said:
I don't care :-P


No need for you to post then if you don't care is there


You asked for my opinion and I gave it. That's your own fault LOL
whocares8x8
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14:28 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
yeah, but then if the league runners do step in, they'll be accused of being biased as usual.
A transfer window prevents that. The player only has to wait until mid-season, so won't miss too much time.
Your point about a bunch of players leaving (and thus destabilizing a clan) is true, but it rarely happens (at least in the last 4 seasons on snooker).
bluenose1872
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14:28 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yeah but if thats all you had to say then there was no point in looking at it and posting was there haha
bluenose1872
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14:29 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
whocares8x8 said:
yeah, but then if the league runners do step in, they'll be accused of being biased as usual.
A transfer window prevents that. The player only has to wait until mid-season, so won't miss too much time.
Your point about a bunch of players leaving (and thus destabilizing a clan) is true, but it rarely happens (at least in the last 4 seasons on snooker).


Used to it though, some people just fail to realize that decision we make at what we think are the best solution to what ever is going on.
dgeneratio
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14:44 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
ab_rfc said:
chris said:
horse10000 said:
1. Yes
2. Scrap it
3. Back to 20
4. Back to allowing transfers with captains permission, no need for a transfer window


Same answers for me. Transfer windows can be a hinderance to teams that need players at any given time and similarly players that need teams. Maybe limit players to one transfer per season to stop anyone jumping from ship to ship?


Same answers for me and I like the idea of one transfer per player.
i like it as well, has to be throughout so for example beth couldn't move from Wolf Pack say for example Dex refused her to move which is his call anyway if Beth had her wildcard left then she should move to a new clan, if she used it then she is stuck at Wolf Pack unless Dex lets her move.

but at the same time i don't mind a transfer window (most users are loyal to their clans) or even captains discretion.

im a neutral on this one
ab_rfc
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14:53 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
if the league runners do step in, they'll be accused of being biased as usual.

The league runners would only step in if asked by the player, As I said " no captain should be allowed to stop members playing in the league".

Your point about a bunch of players leaving (and thus destabilizing a clan) is true, but it rarely happens (at least in the last 4 seasons on snooker)

Could happen tho
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14:57 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
one players should be able to leave a clan if he or she not happy there
that player can only go to one more clan team in a season after that it not permitted to do it twice in a full season
i think any player should be able to leave a team with out the captain say so once he joint a new team he not permitted to do again in a full season
that only for players that are in clan already
whocares8x8
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15:00 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Didn't people get rid of last season's transfer system because there were too many arguments or something? We had it but got rid of it.
The captain will say that the player just wants to leave for no reason and not release him, the player will just say that the captain is a tyrant and won't let him play the entire season. Where do you go from there?
I can only recommend a transfer window, because it's worked very well in my experience.
gl pool with solving all your problems!
bluenose1872
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15:01 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
My personal opinion on this topic is that any captain that does not release a player is not a decent captain, this is a internet game as if you can stop a player wanting to leave a clan to go to another for what ever reason.

But....

I wouldn't release a player to another clan if that player had games to finish for the clan and there was no active enough player(s) to sub in. I believe though that every player has the common decency to finish there matches before they depart for another clan.
dgeneratio
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15:09 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Jay team changes aren't valid until next fixture so in effect still in their previous clan until that fixture ends.

basically you get one wildcard a season once you used it thats it.
ab_rfc
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15:09 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think this should kill off any idea of a transfer window

whocares8x8
Your point about a bunch of players leaving (and thus destabilizing a clan) is true, but it rarely happens (at least in the last 4 seasons on snooker)

ab_rfc - Could happen tho

So I think the options are leave as is or go back to the way it was with tranfers anytime.
horse10000
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15:15 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
Player A is playing for Clan A. He advises captain that he is leaving and joining another clan at the end of that set of fixtures, then posts on the clan thread to back this up.

Next set Player A is now playing for Clan B. He has had his one transfer and could not move to any other clan for the remainder of that season.

He has giving his current clan notice and he gets his one transfer for the season any player could do this at any time.

Only way league staff and captains need to get involved if is because of that player leaving it was going to cause Clan A problems in completing further fixtures, even then league staff could point them to any players who were looking for clans from the available player thread.
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16:44 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
horse10000 said:
Player A is playing for Clan A. He advises captain that he is leaving and joining another clan at the end of that set of fixtures, then posts on the clan thread to back this up.

Next set Player A is now playing for Clan B. He has had his one transfer and could not move to any other clan for the remainder of that season.

He has giving his current clan notice and he gets his one transfer for the season any player could do this at any time.
Only way league staff and captains need to get involved if is because of that player leaving it was going to cause Clan A problems in completing further fixtures, even then league staff could point them to any players who were looking for clans from the available player thread.


yes i agreed with that totally
zantetsukenz
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16:51 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
1. Yes

I think Craig mentioned it about div 1 maybe lacking experience to do defaults, I would think that league runners should be more careful who is picked in div 2, but they should have an experienced captain at the very least. There will be one person at least from each clan capable.

2. Scrap it, It's caused too much trouble.

3. Either way is fine by me, as long as it isn't changed mid-season

4. Either way is good, as long as there is a limit at which a player cannot transfer to another clan if it leaves the first below a certain number (say 10). Though I don't think that you should get rid of the pre-season window. Other than that all of this is good...

doubted2 said:
4. Allowing players to transfer to another clan during a season with the captains permission (Like it used to be)

dont agree with this rule in any way,,,

my views
a) if a player leaves and hasnt played in either league or cup he then becomes a free agent

if a captain releases a player without playing he is a free agent

transfers should be straight after season finishes and the window closed 2 weeks before the new season starts,
this will enable teams to settle down, captains preparing for pre season qulaification

i also think any player who plays in pre-qualification and dosnt play in the league or cup should also be classed as a free agent if there not given an officail league or cup game to play in
bluenose1872
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17:04 Fri 30 Dec 11 (GMT)  [Link]  
zantetsukenz said:
1. Yes

I think Craig mentioned it about div 1 maybe lacking experience to do defaults, I would think that league runners should be more careful who is picked in div 2, but they should have an experienced captain at the very least. There will be one person at least from each clan capable.

2. Scrap it, It's caused too much trouble.

3. Either way is fine by me, as long as it isn't changed mid-season

4. Either way is good, as long as there is a limit at which a player cannot transfer to another clan if it leaves the first below a certain number (say 10). Though I don't think that you should get rid of the pre-season window. Other than that all of this is good...


Yeah Craig did mention it on the page before, and also in private message to me where we did speak about it. I think there will be capable players from division two that can cope with doing defaults, but i don't see any problem with having a guide there looking over them just in case there is a mix up or what ever.

2. I think i have heard enough about this now as many people have said scrap it, next season this will be scrapped.

3. These changes are for next season when i take over as the head league runner so there will be no change mid season.

4. Im unsure on this as there has been many opinions on it, want to hear more of what people have to say on the matter, but i myself am drawn to the they can change clan through the season but can only go to one clan.
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