this is why he was dragged into it,,,,,,,,,,,because i didnt name anyone i was generalising

according to the kev04 situation not only could you captain you could also run the league

and there are others
this season no_talking ---- is now big_mouse he didnt have 1 seasons experience under his user name was allowed to captain and as i say there are others

but that isnt the debate im just answering you spoonie without setting a new debate going

like i said read back
being very selective arnt we

actually craig you wrote about big_mouse BEFORE i wrote about explain please and the explain part was about captains and running league and not big_mouse.

as i said before big_mouse is eligible to captain so i suggest you move along.

Dgen posted that at 18:15, your post was edited at 18:14

Your next post after that...


the explanation as to what you were talking about which dgen asked for...


The only one being selective is you...


^ posted this, yet you clearly had mentioned it - and quoted your posts which don't mention Rick, then i post where you did bring up Rick and you said it was a reply to another post (which was made AFTER you posted about Rick)


League decision was correct, he is a capable captain, stop bringing it up

jeeeeez what does tht say

but that isnt the debate im just answering you spoonie without setting a new debate going

You had already started the debate on new accounts using previous experience, you didn't even need to mention it - the issue has been dealt with.

You're complaining about rules changes, and want to keep existing rules (which include the runners having the right to change rules at any time they see fit to)

If the majority support an idea, then it should be accepted if its feasable. Disagree with whatever suggestion gets put forward, not the act a change may occur if its needed/wanted. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion without a backlash.

Rules are never changed during a season, except in extreme circumstances. Suggestions for rule changes for future seasons may be posted on the FunkyPool forum or sent to the league hosts directly - input and opinions are encouraged!

League Hosts reserve the right to make any changes to the rules they see fit but normally rules are never changed during seasons

im not for changing or not changing

what ive said is we shouldnt be panicking into changing rules for the sake of it, to help out an individual

i showed examples and tried to point out they dont always work

Its not to help an individual, its to help the league as a whole - and any clans which find themselves in a problem.

Things are only being discussed currently, there's no panic whatsoever. Need to discuss it before it can be implemented, the majority may decide that they would like the change to take place next season, or they may want it in for this season.

The only example you used was for a captain whose 1 season experience came on a previous account, and for that example the exception to the rule is currently a good decision - as that captains clan are still participating in the season

That just proves the league can get it right with a little bit of trust in their judgement. Though obviously they still shouldn't do things without proper thought. When thouroughly discussed and justified, it shouldn't matter how many changes are implemented mid-season

You have vices and captains, you don't have to be on regularly to get players in by message

instead of spouting rubbish you need to check things before posting, please dont put words into my mouth,,, if you read back there are rules not a rule , that has been broken and rules are in place for everyone, you cant just change rules to suite individuals or a team. that includes my own clan

if a team folds then so be it, there have been clans folding before i havent seen rules changed to suite... i wonder if rules would be changed so readily if shooters were in trouble

im sorry but im not answerable to you,,, i am also allowed to discuss topics on this thread aswell as you,

we are allowed opinions as long as forum rules are not being broken.
now i believe it may be time to have a change of topic

thankyou

"if teams fold so be it", nice attitude towards other clans lol.

Do you not think its time we helped struggling clans so they don't fold ?, I'm expecting a NO here lol.

alan i think all help should be offered

but uve got to look and say emergency transfers

there are enough free agents out there to sign, why move the goal posts, if that clan captain needs players the league should help recruit not change rules

do you not think that would be a better route to follow

...i think all clans should be treated the same. rules should be left to end of season to be changed i feel, and pick ur team carefully before the start of the season not just on how good they are but how active they are. i agree with craig when he says there are enough free agents out there.

Depends what you call free agents. In terms of free agents that have shown an interest in playing in clans as per the thread, there were none before the current set of fixtures started. There has been one since the fixtures started and that person was snapped up by the Underdogs. That player cannot play before 29/12/11 due to the one month rule which is absolutely correct and proper.

The issue is not the availability of players though. The suggestion was that, if you could find a player to join, then that player could be allowed to play immediately in a current set of fixtures to solve default issues subject to a) the account being one month old and b) the league runners agreeing to it. The suggestion was also not made with the aim of it being brought in mid season, or with the aim of allowing MVP and Underdogs to get their bonus points!! It was a suggestion that could be an improvement to the rules that currently exist.

The issue of loans was a completely different proposal from someone else and one that would certainly need a whole new set of rules to be introduced to ensure there was no abuse of it.

I was involved in publishing the first set of FCL rules over two years ago with janmb and potthelot. The Quarantine Rule was there to stop brand new players, former deleted/banned players on new accounts etc being brought straight into a team mid fixture. It needed to be there because there was no One Month rule at the time as that came in later.

With the One Month rule then arguably the Quarantine Rule became redundant. However by keeping the Quarantine Rule and saying that the league runners still reserve the right to enforce it if they sense something is not right you potentially then have rules that suit each possible scenario - ie reducing defaults, keeping clans viable and stopping abuse.

yh loaning is a dodgy proposal not a bad 1, just a lil dodgy on whether the loaned player wud actually giv 100%.

yh next season that rule sounds like a gud idea, to play straight away for a clan, how come that wasn't already in place? why did they have to wait till next fixtures m8?

The Quarantine rule exists, because if you can just pick up any player and have him play straight away, the idea of a clan becomes a farce. You can just get anyone in the chat room to play if you're at the deadline to get them complete. Or at the end of the season, you could sign destiny to play the deciding cup game for you.

The one month rule now has the primary function of stopping players dodging the "no mid-season transfers" rule by just deactivating and joining another clan.

I thought new players to a clan had to be acknowledged as accepted by the League before they were eligible anyway?

I'm not the one who needs to check posts, you are.

You said you had shown examples of rule changes not always working, when in fact you only made general points and only backed up one of these with an example (which was of a rule change/exemption actually working)

Rules changes would never be made with the interests of a single clan in mind, it may be that if put in place it would only affect one clan currently, but it would help any other clan in the future - and it would have to be supported by those it wouldn't really benefit.



Have these players told you this and that they want the rule change being immediate and not for the next fixture set/season? (they don't seem to be pushing the runners for a decision which would affect this fixture set, just a coincidence that they're playing a clan it would affect - they've supported other ideas before for lowering defaults)

I thought this was the discussion thread, not the argument thread? People can agree with a point you know. (and I was stating the fact I only used 15 as an example because that is the number mentioned)



But if a captain/vice isn't on regularly, then what could easily be dealt with may take several days, costing valuable time (especially near the deadline)